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Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#61 - 2014-04-17 06:50:12 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
It's a fine feature, don't consider an exploit at all. It can be countered, so it's all good.

TBH you just sound mad someone got away.


for a reason.

remove warpcore stabs, cloaks and nullfiers from the game.

******* carebear stuff.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2014-04-17 14:09:03 UTC
Luwc wrote:
Princess Nexxala wrote:
It's a fine feature, don't consider an exploit at all. It can be countered, so it's all good.

TBH you just sound mad someone got away.


for a reason.

remove warpcore stabs, cloaks and nullfiers from the game.

******* carebear stuff.
Yeah and also remove Jump Freighters while you're at it. So when logistics become impractical, leet PVPers can have fun fitting their ships in Jita and flying them back to lowsec one at a time. Or paying 3x the current prices in lowsec because every hauler would need an escort (could actually be a fun mechanic btw, but also a bit of a boring PITA).

/sarcasm

Learn to catch smart haulers if that's your thing, or go fight combat ships for a change.

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Flav Mine
TACTICAL AGGRESSION
#63 - 2014-07-11 12:02:30 UTC
ok we have managed to conter this stupid thing all fleets now run with a intecepter it locks but doesnt engage (no gate fire) but you cant cloak no more pray you turds pray hard cuz no body has slipped though since.

dont let TAAG find you while roaming cuz this cloak warp is no more for us. well if we got an intercepter with us anyway

all others spread the word intercepter plus finy point phobos means so many tears and well paid ransoms.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2014-07-11 12:10:59 UTC
Flav Mine wrote:
ok we have managed to conter this stupid thing all fleets now run with a intecepter it locks but doesnt engage (no gate fire) but you cant cloak no more pray you turds pray hard cuz no body has slipped though since.

dont let TAAG find you while roaming cuz this cloak warp is no more for us. well if we got an intercepter with us anyway

all others spread the word intercepter plus finy point phobos means so many tears and well paid ransoms.



Congratulations on figuring out that interceptors have high scan res.

Too bad no scan res is high enough to reliably lock a target before it cloaks.

But I hear inties make good ships to chase after targets and decloak them. Consider trying that out, too.

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Ray Kyonhe
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2014-07-11 14:49:11 UTC
Flav Mine wrote:
i was wondering why this cloak microdrive warp exploit hasnt been fixed or abolished

Why meddling with grid size (which is as much an exploit as they come, on my opinion) not only wasn't abolished, but has become a legitimate gameplay? Why can't you harm someone hiding in station all the time, despite they say everywhere that in New Eden you can't hide from PvP anywhere? The answer will be the same: because CCP want them to stay like that (or don't want/can't fix them atm)

And MWD-cloak isn't really a big issue, comparing to those. Those who use it give you 10 seconds to decloak slowly moving vessel, which shouldn't be a problem for experienced camper. I don't see problem here. If you camp in slow moving boat too, than get some friend in ceptor.

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Ray Kyonhe
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2014-07-11 15:02:38 UTC
Luwc wrote:

for a reason.

remove warpcore stabs, cloaks and nullfiers from the game.

******* carebear stuff.

Remove ability to attack someone while having overwhelming, exessive combat value of a fleet, add balancers to PvP.
******* gankbear stuff.

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Moth Eisig
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2014-07-11 15:44:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Moth Eisig
Flav Mine wrote:

thnx for the 2-3 actually answers that stuck on topic the rest, (half of) dont even make sense,


Yes indeed it is the other people in this thread who have been making incoherent, misspelled, abbreviation-filled, poorly-formatted, and barely readable posts that don't even make sense.
Arec Bardwin
#68 - 2014-07-11 21:57:39 UTC
Flav Mine wrote:
ok we have managed to conter this stupid thing all fleets now run with a intecepter it locks but doesnt engage (no gate fire) but you cant cloak no more pray you turds pray hard cuz no body has slipped though since.
You spent 4 months figuring this out? I guess an attaboy is well deserved Big smile
Flav Mine
TACTICAL AGGRESSION
#69 - 2014-07-16 06:34:25 UTC

[/quote]Congratulations on figuring out that interceptors have high scan res.

Too bad no scan res is high enough to reliably lock a target before it cloaks.

But I hear inties make good ships to chase after targets and decloak them. Consider trying that out, too.[/quote]

We use the cepter with scan res roughly 3200 scan res lockin time 1second including lag (from lock to target up on screan) so only thing is he has to beat the other players response time . 9/10 times find us a lock he doesn't agrees though just lock. Leaving hauler with the message: u are unable to cloak as you are being targeted by someone. We catch almost all now
Flav Mine
TACTICAL AGGRESSION
#70 - 2014-07-16 06:41:47 UTC
Arec Bardwin wrote:
Flav Mine wrote:
ok we have managed to conter this stupid thing all fleets now run with a intecepter it locks but doesnt engage (no gate fire) but you cant cloak no more pray you turds pray hard cuz no body has slipped though since.
You spent 4 months figuring this out? I guess an attaboy is well deserved Big smile


No figured it a week later mate I just don't sit in forums trolling cuz I suck at eve.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2014-07-16 10:44:22 UTC
to OP. Because it is NOT an exploit, it is an accepted mechanic. ANYTHING that is an exploit get people banned, if after 10 years CCP is ok with it, means it is NOT an exploit. Easy.. simple. Hard to understand?

Peopel whine so much, yet is so rare to see someoen try that nowadays.

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2014-07-16 10:46:28 UTC
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
Flav Mine wrote:
and has decloaking with drones been removed? this was my thought to maybe counter

it used to be allowed actually. only last year or 2 years ago gm's changed their minds on that stance. cuz to many minmatar stealth bomber cry babys couldnt make their isk :)



It was more related to fact that jita gates ( already overloaded) were constantly swarmed by hundreds of droens, creatign even more lag.

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Logan PewPew
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#73 - 2014-07-16 19:09:57 UTC
Flav Mine wrote:
and has decloaking with drones been removed? this was my thought to maybe counter


i don't think so. when my corp was in WH we used to drop t1 drones around our holes all the time, seemed to work.
Tixx Enaka
I Like Raccoons
#74 - 2014-07-22 17:45:50 UTC
Uhhh I'm pretty new but hasn't this been around for like, ever? Isn't crying exploit when it's not bad form or whatever?

Oh and new or not I know that post isn't going to help you out in EvE at all pal Lol
Flav Mine
TACTICAL AGGRESSION
#75 - 2014-07-23 00:36:10 UTC
Tixx Enaka wrote:
Uhhh I'm pretty new but hasn't this been around for like, ever? Isn't crying exploit when it's not bad form or whatever?

Oh and new or not I know that post isn't going to help you out in EvE at all pal Lol


Mate read the forum it's been resolved, it was explained why it isn't an exploit which is great forum is more on the counter of it now which there are a lot aswell and the counters work, your post makes no sense to this forum at all.
Please keep on track.
1. Not an exploit (sorted)
2. Not about gate camping, about scoring a loot drop while roaming (sorted)
3. Trolling (ignored)
4. Countering ideas (in progress)
To who have put in great ideas explanations and so forth thankyou
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#76 - 2014-07-25 12:21:11 UTC
1. You called the warp cloak thing an exploit (because you hadn't figured it out)
2. You come to the forums whining and looking for a handout (fix for 'exploit')
3. Folks that have figured it out years ago make fun of you or give you some tips
4. You rage at their poor upbringing for not giving you the solution and making fun of you
5. You find the solution once captain obvious helps you to it (that has been know to many for years)
6. You come back w/ the 'oh... nevermind we figured it out' post
7. You're still angry that we made fun of you for being bad at the game
8. You like to number things
9. So do I
10. You are pretty awesome
11. Mammy Thule has a sweet sweet mustache
12. You have learned and progressed only because we have allowed it - captain obvious says 'you're welcome.'
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#77 - 2014-07-25 13:18:06 UTC
That is not an exploit, its been around for years.
I use it often enough when i'm moving my transport ship with something too large for the crane to handle or my carrier isn't practical in that particular case. ( Or the 2 occasions where my cyno died and i used gates to move my Black Ops )

If you have such an issue with it learn how to do a proper decloak or take precautions to reduce the chances of it happening, people screw it up often enough where they hit the MWD too soon and their sig explodes and then they get caught anyways, belive it or not learning to do it perfectly every time in a variety of situations is more difficult than it seems, i would venture to say it requires some skill in fact.

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Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#78 - 2014-07-25 13:25:02 UTC
Luwc wrote:
Princess Nexxala wrote:
It's a fine feature, don't consider an exploit at all. It can be countered, so it's all good.

TBH you just sound mad someone got away.


for a reason.

remove warpcore stabs, cloaks and nullfiers from the game.

******* carebear stuff.


I sincerely hope that was forum trolling
Stabs make targets easier to catch and kill since it nukes their targeting range and blows up their sig like an MWD. If your really having issues with stabs..... Get a Hictor, problem solved

Cloaks make covert ops ships some of the most fun ships to fly, and are a well balanced mechanic with hard counters if you know how to use them. Its really not hard

Nullifiers are only applied to T3's and Interceptors, so 2 types of fish are avoiding your net, guess that means you need to be a better fisherman or get around to getting a good lure.

Can we end the "Nerf all these mechanics that I think are broken when they clearly aren't" threads and do something productive?

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Phaade
LowKey Ops
Shadow Cartel
#79 - 2014-07-25 14:18:32 UTC
Not an exploit. Not broken. Shouldn't be abolished.

Why do you hate that you didn't catch some cloaked cheetah in your bubble.

Bubbles are far more like a broken exploit than mwd / cloak.
Snakes-On-A-Plane
#80 - 2014-07-26 21:35:54 UTC
If the average player isn't whining, then you have introduced a 'skill cap' into the game.
Whining is a sign of game health.