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Looking for a L4 ship in Caldari space
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Ziester
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-07-14 01:23:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ziester
Hi.

I'm returning from quite almost a year break and I'm looking for a new ship do run L4's with.
I don't know if they changed a lot regarding missions though so a few pointers would be great.

I just need a ship that's appealing to do them efficiently (as in good isk/hour). I can probably figure out the fitting for myself.

Thx

PS : I can fly almost all combat ships up to Marauders for Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar, with full T2 fits

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iu'ra
Criterion.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#2 - 2014-07-14 01:40:44 UTC
Rattler
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-07-14 01:52:30 UTC
Ziester wrote:
Hi.

I'm returning from quite almost a year break and I'm looking for a new ship do run L4's with.
I don't know if they changed a lot regarding missions though so a few pointers would be great.

I just need a ship that's appealing to do them efficiently (as in good isk/hour). I can probably figure out the fitting for myself.

Thx


You didn't say what skills you have about gunnery, missiles, drones, armor, shield, etc... Without that it's kind of a stab in the dark

If you can fly them I would say a Golem or Rattlesnake.
L4V4
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-07-14 03:44:53 UTC  |  Edited by: L4V4
Assuming your skilled for Caldari Battleships and missiles..

⇦MORE EXPENSIVE      ↹       LESS EXPENSIVE⇨
⇦LESS DRONE SKILLS ↹ MORE DRONE SKILLS⇨

1: GOLEM 2: RAVEN NAVY ISSUE 3: RATTLESNAKE
Termy Rockling
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-07-14 09:32:59 UTC
Any bloody battleship works in missions aslong it aint some silly ecm boat.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-07-14 13:58:06 UTC
navy raven, golem, rattlesnake. or if you hate missiles (like i do), a rail vindi or kronos will also do fine.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Ziester
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-07-14 14:09:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ziester
I can fly pretty much every sub-cap combat ship except Amarr, with a full T2 fit

OP modified

But about Marauders, I'm kinda worried about ECM since a few Caldari missions pack a lot of it iirc. Can MJD and dictating range can overcome that ?

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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-07-14 14:23:57 UTC  |  Edited by: IIshira
Ziester wrote:
I can fly pretty much every sub-cap combat ship except Amarr, with a full T2 fit

OP modified

But about Marauders, I'm kinda worried about ECM since a few Caldari missions pack a lot of it iirc. Can MJD and dictating range can overcome that ?


Marauders are immune to ECM in bastion. One of the awesome changes

In Caldari space I would go with the Golem. I love mine. Again I hear the Rattlesnake is awesome but I've never tried it.
Ziester
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-07-14 17:57:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Ziester
I've been using missiles a lot and I feel lke i need a change toward instant damage application.

I put up the following Kronos fit (As an example, tank is against Serpentis). Please let me know if it's ok or if I'm doing it wrong :

http://gyazo.com/c69dc94660a79d86f059adb89da8ab4e

I'm not quite sure about the rigs, they're probably not necessary and maybe I could swap them for Optimal Range ones ?

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Mooh Bear
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#10 - 2014-07-14 19:41:34 UTC
I used a RNI/cruise for a while and it works great. I've switched to a Gila after the Kronos revamp and it's been a blast so far.
Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-07-14 20:07:28 UTC
Rattlesnake. The role bonus to sentries makes missions hilariously easy and quick. Plus the Gecko...love the Gecko. Looooooooooooooove the Gecko.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#12 - 2014-07-14 20:32:38 UTC
Get a marauder, just do it.

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#13 - 2014-07-15 05:35:03 UTC
tngoo

Oh god.
Gefen Orion
Icebox Industries
#14 - 2014-07-15 06:23:52 UTC
Golem + Bastion
Vargur + Bastion

equals

Dead Guristas

I personally like the vargur over the golem due to the fact there are so many frig-heavy missions. And if you ever relocate to angel space, then you would be in heaven, but gallente space is also a good place for the vargur. BS guristas normally orbits you from 30km to 35km. Well within the "optimal" range of 800 AC IIs. So its all good.

Another advantage of using a vargur over a golem, is that you can live with standard ammo. Im not adverse to using T2 ammo. But using standard over T2 saves me tons of isk while doing 800+ paper dps. Besides, i dont rush missions coz i loot and salvage at the same time, so more isk in the long run.

In the end, its your own choice. Fly what you feel is good for you.
Gorr Shakor
Shakor Freight and Mining Service
#15 - 2014-07-15 06:42:22 UTC
Gefen Orion wrote:
Golem + Bastion
Vargur + Bastion

equals

Dead Guristas

I personally like the vargur over the golem due to the fact there are so many frig-heavy missions. And if you ever relocate to angel space, then you would be in heaven, but gallente space is also a good place for the vargur. BS guristas normally orbits you from 30km to 35km. Well within the "optimal" range of 800 AC IIs. So its all good.

Another advantage of using a vargur over a golem, is that you can live with standard ammo. Im not adverse to using T2 ammo. But using standard over T2 saves me tons of isk while doing 800+ paper dps. Besides, i dont rush missions coz i loot and salvage at the same time, so more isk in the long run.

In the end, its your own choice. Fly what you feel is good for you.


Just a side note.. Cannot find it for the life of me but someone actually ran the numbers and Faction Ammo came out being cheaper for marauders in the long run.
Cyno Saraki
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-07-15 07:33:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyno Saraki
Rattler that does 1500+ dps kin/therm in only T2 fit.
That thing is a beast...

Edit: Most skill intensive subcap in the game though. More so than marauders...
Doggy Dogwoofwoof
New Eden Corporation 98713347
#17 - 2014-07-15 20:08:29 UTC
Cyno Saraki wrote:
Rattler that does 1500+ dps kin/therm in only T2 fit.
That thing is a beast...

Edit: Most skill intensive subcap in the game though. More so than marauders...

TFI still has it beat in Skills needed :D
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#18 - 2014-07-17 04:28:50 UTC
I like having a paladin and machariel combo. I just wish my alt was active so I could properly try the rattlesnake.

paladin (and the nightmare in most cases) is a rather flexible gunboat with great projection, and surprisingly good damage type for caldari space. I got a ton of blood/sansha/drone/merc missions.

mach great dps and goes fast! plus you can swap damage types to compliment the paladin rather well.

golem/cnr I'd mostly just want one so I could semi afk missions with auto-targeting missiles. and the Varg is just slow, add in autocannons and boring! Kronos is pretty nice, I just think the rail damage is a bit low. blaster fit it is pretty awesome, but range is a complaint on some missions.

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Akashi Suenobu
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-07-17 15:47:24 UTC
Termy Rockling wrote:
Any bloody battleship works in missions aslong it aint some silly ecm boat.


I'm a big fan of the MJD sentry domi for missions.

edit: or rather I was, until I could fly a tengu.
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-07-17 18:46:07 UTC
u have multiple choices.

marauder immune to jamming with bastion great tank slow warpspeeds.
Rattlesnake needs alot of sp to pull it off efficiently long warp time but great damage projection and good tank.
Raven Navy and Dominix with mjd great applied damage good to great range (Raven Navy can get an 8k alpha and around 900 dps) slow warpspeed
Machariel average to good damage application thx tu subwarp speeds, and the fastest warp speed to site

as always take my info with a grain of salt as i havent flown all ships thats just the basic scrabs i got from ppl i know when i havent flown said ship.