Warfare & Tactics

Everyday I check the eve-kill site and click on 5+bil and there are so many freighters being killed, many of them jump freighters and I just wanted to ask how they are doing it?

I just don't get how it's possible to kill a jump freighter when they can just jump and land right on 0km on the station and they could just dock if they get shot anyway...

They're stupid.

JFs are vulnerable in lowsec when they have to make that single stargate jump to highsec.

They need to undock and warp to the highsec gate.

When they start aligning to the gate, they can be bumped out of docking range and murdered.

Insta-undocks don't help them either, because it's easy to quickly probe out their landing point and jump on them while they're still aligning to the gate a few thousand clicks from the station.

I don't fly JF's so I've never tried this, but I've thought about it, is it possible to light the cyno right on a gate and have the freighter jump directly into HS?

100mn cap stable NOMEN can slam into a freighter like a semi truck and send it off the undock, at which point you just keep the bumps up until it is safely off the undock ( usually about 30kms in my book ). then tackle and web and let the guns do the rest of the talking.

Sometimes in low sec you have to think like your in high sec in regards to station games. except you wont get CONCORD intervention just some pesky station guns. ( which barely hurt most well tanked ships )

10kms, i made that mistake with my Nidhogger once and ended up bumping off station by like 60kms
Thank god local was empty because i had time to align and warp to my safe spot and back before anyone entered local

Sadly it is actually 5km.

Umm, sure. Go with that.

Often cap pilots see the stabber coming, and panic, then start spamming the dock button. The moment they hit it, they can be targeted, but you still have the redock delay. It's not long, but if the bump hits and pushes you far enough, you could easily be out of docking range before the timer expires. It's obviously worse for some station types based on their docking radius and how it lines up with the undock, but the stations that are bad for it are where most of them die.

The redock delay, aka the session change timer, lasts 10s from undock.

However, you're invulnerable for 30 seconds after undock, if you do nothing else except ctrl-space stop your jf.

So one possible mistake is to try to warp immediately after you undock, yes.

Another mistake would be to 'warp' instead of 'aligning' first. Because if you see a bumper, you can dock while aligning, but you would have to cancel warp first in order to dock if you gave the warp command (hope it's clear lol).


If you undock from a 'good' station, ctrl-space, wait 15-20s, then align to the highsec gate, I assume you should be able to immediately redock if you spot a bumper. Can someone confirm this? I plan to buy a jf myself sometime in the future... :)