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Mordus blueprint rats way too scarce
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BLUSTAR Alfrir
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
Crimson Inquisicion
#1 - 2014-07-09 23:19:41 UTC
Hi Folks, I with an alt have been on long hunts for Mordus belt rats for the BPC's. My method is to be in a cloaky Proteus and Falcon. I warp them to belts in leap frog fashion at 0 cloaked. When the Mordus wrecks were first introduced I found a Barghest and a Garmur fairly quickly. I have since then been to about 200 belts and found bugger all.

Have I reached my quota? Is warping in cloaked wrong? Are some ares better than others? Have they all ran out? are there only so many released after each downtime?

CCP please shed some light on this for me so I stop wasting my time.

Has this happened to anyone else? Ugh
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#2 - 2014-07-10 02:13:07 UTC
BLUSTAR Alfrir wrote:
Hi Folks, I with an alt have been on long hunts for Mordus belt rats for the BPC's. My method is to be in a cloaky Proteus and Falcon. I warp them to belts in leap frog fashion at 0 cloaked. When the Mordus wrecks were first introduced I found a Barghest and a Garmur fairly quickly. I have since then been to about 200 belts and found bugger all.

Have I reached my quota? Is warping in cloaked wrong? Are some ares better than others? Have they all ran out? are there only so many released after each downtime?

CCP please shed some light on this for me so I stop wasting my time.

Has this happened to anyone else? Ugh



A couple of years ago, the server used to forget all the spawned NPCs during downtime and respawn new ones. This made officer and faction rat hunting very easy for Australians that logged in straight after downtime - all we'd do is check a bunch of belts and we'd see the actual spawn rate chances but compressed by not needing to shoot anything.

CCP decided to change that, so whatever was spawned up in the belt, remains spawned up in the belt.

Everyone like you that is cherry picking will clear all the mordus, and then have to wait for some person to farm belts to clear the normal spawns to give a chance for the rare spawn to occur.
Joshua Milton Blahyi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-07-12 12:09:50 UTC
Tauranon wrote:

Everyone like you that is cherry picking will clear all the mordus, and then have to wait for some person to farm belts to clear the normal spawns to give a chance for the rare spawn to occur.


This.

And more this.

People don't seem to want to put in the work to farm the spawns in the more lucrative systems in low sec for the spawns. There are a couple of groups that have done a pretty good job of locking down certain pockets with good spawns rates, but most of the viable systems are empty 90% of the time.

Because people just want to fly through the belts, leave all the crappy spawns and shoot all the BS's on their hunt, none of the spawns get cleared, and everything stays the same.

If you are willing to put in the effort you can get a pretty consistent spawn rate of mordus if you put the effort in. Which is why so many people can't find any.

I've bagged a couple of Orthrus' while the frig flying cherry pickers had dipped out to reship.

Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
#4 - 2014-07-12 16:14:38 UTC
So the suggestion is that farming a system's belts will likely improve the odds of obtaining a Mordus (and clone soliders) rat rather than running 30 systems checking each belt as you go?

I wonder what the stats are for both.

So some imply that farming the belts in a system is more work while arguably the 30 system low sec travel could be considered work as you must be prepared for non consensual PvP in any given gate or belt.

Then again, which would be more fun for the person attempting to find a Mordus rat? System hopping also gives better chances of finding ghost and besieged sites (for those interested). Running these sites in addition to hunting Mordus (and clones) would make the time more fun with the potential of getting ganked for your efforts. Ok, you could get ganked in the system you are farming but it is your system. You really should know better.

Personally, I prefer this latter approach: System running belt to belt, hunting Mordus, Clones, Ghost and Besieged sites all at the same time. I get something out of it: I practice evasion skills and if opportunity smiles, easy kills (I am a terrible pvper). I have been ganked (7:1 and they thought that was a gf lol) but that is the cost of doing business; it is Eve after all.

Also, once I have traveled an area I get a "feel" for its activity. Now I break out the scanning gear and look for the combat sigs and run those.

So, for those that choose to focus on one system and tend to the belts, I commend you and your patience and tenacity. I can do that myself but I feel I will miss out on too many other things going on in the systems around me.

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Jonas Staal
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-07-13 06:04:30 UTC
Tzar Sinak wrote:
So the suggestion is that farming a system's belts will likely improve the odds of obtaining a Mordus (and clone soliders) rat rather than running 30 systems checking each belt as you go?

I wonder what the stats are for both.

So some imply that farming the belts in a system is more work while arguably the 30 system low sec travel could be considered work as you must be prepared for non consensual PvP in any given gate or belt.


I think his point is that when everyone starts cherry picking rather than working the belts, there would just be less spawns.
Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
#6 - 2014-07-13 13:55:26 UTC
Spawns are random. Working the belts increases the chances of a spawn not the actual spawn.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-07-15 17:57:53 UTC
Tzar Sinak wrote:
Spawns are random. Working the belts increases the chances of a spawn not the actual spawn.


Can you get a new spawn if one is actually present and not getting cleared?
Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
#8 - 2014-07-15 19:18:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Tzar Sinak
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Tzar Sinak wrote:
Spawns are random. Working the belts increases the chances of a spawn not the actual spawn.


Can you get a new spawn if one is actually present and not getting cleared?


If it is using the same mechanic as officer spawns, and why would it not, then yes. It would be exceptionally unusual though.

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