Market Discussions

The price dropped pretty notably in Dodixie. Do you guys think this is the end of the bubble?

There is no bubble, you are dumb.

yes!
This is the end!

no, plex isn't crashing. we're just going back to business as usual. after everyone plexed their new accounts.

Yes it is ! Go sell all your plex before it falls too loow !

I think the short-term price hike caused by Power of Two is probably over.

That doesn't mean the long term factors that increase PLEX prices have changed at all - mainly, that the number of medium skillpoint players capable of efficiently generating ISK (via a variety of measures) has increased faster than the number of people looking to spend RL cash for ISK in an EULA-compliant fashion.

It will burst when CCP fixes sov. Then people will reactivate accounts and liquidate their investment plex for isk to spend. Plex price will keep rising until the number of online users (not active accounts) starts to increase again.

I'm a new player. Can you explain to me why am I supposed to be buying plex to generate isk for myself? That would suggest that the market is inflated to the point where new players can't properly fund themselves with their ingame activities, and in turn offers little incentive for them to stick around. In my experience, this has not been the case.

By funding myself I meant ships, mods etc. I've seen other people say that new players should be converting plex to isk too, so it got me wondering.

Consuming plex for subscription purposes is an entirely different subject that I wasn't touching on.

*Should* is inappropriate verbiage for anyone to be using. Value is subjective. You cannot derive an ought (eg. should) from an is. Because PLEX buys X amount of isk does not mean you should sell or buy PLEX. What people mean when they say this, unless they're idiots, is that they value their time more than the cash they're spending on PLEX vis a vi what time they would spend grinding isk manually. As an example, a surgeon might be good at mowing lawns, he might even be better than his neighborhood kid who mows the lawn for him; however, he doesn't mow his lawn because he makes way more doing surgery and in the little off time he has he'd just like to enjoy himself and not perform the work of mowing the lawn. The option to pay his neighbor kid to do it doesn't mean he shouldn't mow his lawn, but he can and does chose not to do so because he values his free time more highly than doing it himself.

To relate this back to EVE, and more appropriately to narrow it a bit to the newbies situation: Assuming you had cash that you didn't mind spending on PLEX, you can make an order of magnitude more isk simply selling a PLEX per month or every other month even, than simply plugging away at low level missions or some other typical newbie task. That being said, as a newbie you also incur far less cost to operate (by which I mean, pvp and losing ships) than your vet counterparts, so it really comes down to a wash based on your own opinions.

Currently, on this character I have an alpha clone and can only fly t1 fitted t1 frigates. That means a weekend of pvp costs me on the order of a few million isk which I can easily recoup during the week by doing a few hours of exploration a night, which I also enjoy. I do also have the option of selling a PLEX and being good on frigate replacements for months, but I've yet to take it because I don't really see the point in skipping content while I still like it. Perhaps later I'll take that option, but for now I'm satisfied.

Summarily, there's absolutely nothing compelling you to purchase and sell PLEX. It's simply an outlet for those with little time to play the game who want to make sure every moment of their game time is specifically tailored to their desired content and does not have to include any grinding, which they're essentially paying someone else' subscription time to do for them.