Wormholes

I am now able to fly a Pilgrim and operate all of it's T2 modules (fit link below) and am going to start wormhole diving in order to find prey. I know how wormholes work, how to probe, dscan, etc..., but I have four nagging questions.

1) How long does it take to find a target in wspace exactly? I plan not to sit and wait, but rather to keep diving into deeper w-space for more targets. I think that's a much more efficient way than just waiting for two hours in the same wormhole. Regardless, ballpark average, how many people even rat/mine in these things anymore without having two carriers inside the system + corp mates? (i.e. how many miner/ratter fly into w-space that they are not based in?)

2) What exactly can a Pilgrim take? I have seen videos of a Pilgrim killing a Tengu, but I am assuming it was active shield tanked, the Pilgrim's bread and butter (crazy nuet boat). But if it isn't a Caldari active shield tank ship, am I rendered useless?

3) What kind of ships rat in w-space?

4) Can the Pilgrim even tank the sleepers long enough to get a kill in?












(ship fit link)

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/21111-Solo-PvP-Pilgrim.html

Hi! I'm damn new to wh sites but I'll take a guess, if somebody corrects me it will be nice for both of us.
You WILL find targets in wspace, WHEN really depends on Bob and your patience ofc.
I guess it will be harder in hiclass (C4-6) because you'll find harder-to-neut targets, and probably won't stand a chance against sleepers there. But overall there will be haulers, gas miners, maybe zealots?
But concerning hunting prey inside sleeper sites, learn at eve-survival about the sites, how much dps you have to tank, if you'll be able to speed tank, also I believe you'll get full sleeper agro once you cap out your target (provided he/she isn't using missiles).
I believe the majority of ratters rely on active tank, so yeah, go after ships that use hybrids or lazors first!
Nice scouting of the hole will provide you a better chance of a successful hunt, keep in mind that scary wormhole people love to bait with drakes and such, specially in low class systems.
Good luck!

1) it depends on what wormhole you have access to. You could find a target instantly or you may find an empty hole....or a hole that is inactive...or a hole whose prime time is in a different timezone. You can take your time...stay cloaked and observe the occupants. Carry a mobile depot in your cargo so you can refit a probe launcher. Probe down all of the sites. Wormhole hunting is for the patient if you want a juicy target. Lots of people solo or are in small isolated groups.

2) Pilgrim is fully capably of taking on any ship up to around battlecruiser level. Of course since you can cloak you can pick your targets. Be aware of the timer you will have (5 seconds I think) after your decloak where you cannot lock the target. You don't have a lot of DPS with the drones so you have to rely on your neuts to disrupt the target.

Any ship with missiles or drones could be difficult for you. The tracking disruptor can mitigate autocannon dps fairly effectively.

So Avoid missiles and drones.

3) In C1-c3 space mostly tech 3 cruisers and some t2 cruisers will rat in anoms. In C4 you will find marauders and the like. In C5-C6 it is almost entirely dreadnoughts and carriers with loki or rapier support.

4) No the pilgrim will be instantly neuted by the sleepers...pointed and webbed then killed quite quickly. It is a force recon. Use that cloak to your advantage and scout targets ahead of time. Warp into a site cloaked and bookmark a wreck near your target...warp off to a safe and warp back...decloaking while in warp. Land...scram, web, TD...use your afterburner. You can inject cap to support your neuts. I have found a 7.5k orbit is fairly good.

2x neut and 1x nos should suffice. The pilgrim requires managing your capacitor...however it is impossible to disengage if you get caught in a trap because it is very slow. Choose targets wisely.

Solo Pilgrim might limit you a little in target choices. Rather than scan your way deeper into w-space I'd recommend highsec diving into lowclass holes where most of the targets you'll encounter will be well within your Pilgrim's ability. You'd be best in my opinion to dual box with something that's got serious DPS. A Proteus would be awesome, but even a T1 BC like a Brutix or Myrm left waiting outside the hole while the Pilgrim tackles would work pretty well.

Firend of mine uses a pilgrim. Though, as the pilgrim is about as dangerous as a dragoon, his target choice is mostly limitd to industrials, frigates, abandonned POS mods and people that logged off with a timer. There is literally nothing the pilgrim can engage on its own in w-space.

Atleast I didn't ever see a pilgrim doing anything a vexor wouldn't d better, with the exception of killing a handful of c1-c2 farmers, since if it's running c3 sites, it can usually kill you regardless (Domis, Ravens).

So, if you are to engage actual targets, you will need backup. Everything that can't shoot back is fine. Else, one set of ogres kills you in a few seconds, same for TPs + cruises.

This has been my experience as well. I trained to a Pilgrim. It sounded badass. I wanted to love it. I've managed to do nothing fun with it...

well definietly solo pilgrim will work agaist miners and explorers in astero,anathema,buzard and any other covop ship. drop container at wormhole entrance or mobile depot to decloak any cloaky ship that warps to wormhole or entering it (player need move little from depot to cloak) and then you can kill it

non-pilgrim other way :
best option is to fly with friend , you in heavy interdiction cruiser and friend in dedicated combat ship. you find wormhole and go in with friend , when you and your friend enter wormhole use HIC bubble and camp the entrance you need lots of steel patience as you may get no targets for hours . best is if wormhole is located in tradehub like amarr rens hek dodixie or jita camp in there as you have more chance that someone scan the wormhole and come explore it

I saw how that approach worked out. Though the guys I saw used a SeBo'ed Onyx and an active tanked proteus. It was sad.

Sorry I just had to LOL at this question.

I think the answer is 42 minutes.

It's basically metric tons of patience if you want to do this kind of thing. Hunt in lower end wormholes via k-space rather than go from higher class to lower class ones - you are more likely to find activity that way.

Look for odd things - that one man corp which 30 alts with the same surname running PI once a day on a predictable cycle, or that C2 mining corp that likes to clear their sites in blingy gilas, and then just wait for stuff to happen - add people onto your watchlist and do something else until they appear.

Oh, and decloak by bumping into the target - you knock them off align and reduce the bad effects of the targeting delay.

The thing with hunting that way is that the majority of the time the target you are after is not engageable. They are either sitting at a pos, warping from spot to spot, or at a site where there is too much NPC dps on field for you to actually safely engage. Eve is 95% waiting and preparation and 5% excitement, this is even more so.

Lastly, let their greed exceed your own. Example; You kill something shiny theirs, and the hauler comes in after an hour of pos spinning, leave it alone. That way they are far more likely to put your kill down to a random occurrence and start running sites in those shinies again and give you another kill.