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Playing EVE On 3G / 4G Connection (Latency + Stability)
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Jack' Sparrow
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-07-09 17:08:06 UTC
Hi all,

I've been considering buying a 3G or 4G dongle to enable me to connect and play EVE.

I'm aware that EVE uses very little in the way of bandwidth, however, I'm curious as to how playable the game is using one of the above mentioned connections.

I'm around 10 minuets walk away from the closest mobile mast and, my mobile gets a full strength connection at all times in my house.

I've tested the ping to the EVE server using a friends ADSL and I get around 80 - 90ms.

What kind of connection stability and latency (ping) can I expect from one of the above mentioned connections?

Thanks for your input Big smile
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2014-07-09 17:31:12 UTC
Should be fine.
Poo Sugar
Swiss Army Spoons
#3 - 2014-07-09 17:32:13 UTC
Until I got a landline installed at my holiday caravan, I used a 3g, and then 4g dongle with no trouble. As long as the signal is ok, you will be fine.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#4 - 2014-07-09 17:41:00 UTC
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-07-09 18:03:15 UTC
I use 4G, no problem.

When I hit my cap and they throttle me down to 2G it works pretty decent too, even with 6 accounts, but I wouldn't try it in a massive fleet fight.

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#6 - 2014-07-09 18:40:31 UTC
4G service is my main service, from a tower to a wireless modem sitting on top of the pc tower in the dining room. Works fine, no latency issues. Am even in a house with aluminum siding. You should be fine.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#7 - 2014-07-09 19:01:17 UTC
Jack' Sparrow wrote:
Hi all,

I've been considering buying a 3G or 4G dongle to enable me to connect and play EVE.

I'm aware that EVE uses very little in the way of bandwidth, however, I'm curious as to how playable the game is using one of the above mentioned connections.

I'm around 10 minuets walk away from the closest mobile mast and, my mobile gets a full strength connection at all times in my house.

I've tested the ping to the EVE server using a friends ADSL and I get around 80 - 90ms.

What kind of connection stability and latency (ping) can I expect from one of the above mentioned connections?

Thanks for your input Big smile




Since 2011 all I have been using is 4G at home and if the signal is good, there should be no problems.

Most of the 3G/4G dongles have a connector port for external antenna. That I highly recommend because it can make a world of difference. I also recommend you use:

- a long USB cable so you can raise the device up and away, around 10'-15' is good and the higher the better, and get the antenna if applicable up even higher if possible Height is everything for any TRx system.
- Use a USB 3.0 port and only use a dongle that will make use of being on USB 3.0. Be aware that a lot of motherboards with USB 3.0 ports shipped with 2.0 drivers so make sure the drivers for your USB ports are fully updated. USB 3.0 devices on USB 3.0 ports with 2.0 drivers can cause strange behavior up to and including blue screens.
- Directional 3G/4G antennae are available if you are in a situation where your device keeps switching towers because of ambiguous proximity, or dropping out of 4G into 3G sporadically. This can disrupt your game. So if you know the direction of the nearest tower a directional antenna would help. I have been in situations where I got crap connection from one tower, so I pointed to another with a beam antenna and got a better connection and got around a "bad Comcast node" that way too.





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Nose' Feliciano
#8 - 2014-07-09 20:36:32 UTC
In terms of "lag" I suspected my intenet, but it's curious that lag always happens at peak player times. I suspect tired hamsters at ther server sweatshop.

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Flying Dangerous
#9 - 2014-07-09 20:39:14 UTC
3G and 4G are fine.

Anytime I am having lag on my ADSL connection I switch to my phone instead and have never had an issue.
Jack' Sparrow
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-07-09 22:16:38 UTC
Thanks for all of the responses.

I had been doing quite a bit of research which gave me the impression that it wouldn't work so well, I feel quite a lot more enthusiastic about trying it now Cool

The main points of these connections are stability and latency, especially for gaming, something that most people have said would be pretty bad. I guess it all just depends on obvious factors.

For those of you who use 3G and 4G connections, what kind of ping readings are you getting if you ping for example Google?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#11 - 2014-07-09 22:56:29 UTC
Jack' Sparrow wrote:
Thanks for all of the responses.

I had been doing quite a bit of research which gave me the impression that it wouldn't work so well, I feel quite a lot more enthusiastic about trying it now Cool

The main points of these connections are stability and latency, especially for gaming, something that most people have said would be pretty bad. I guess it all just depends on obvious factors.

For those of you who use 3G and 4G connections, what kind of ping readings are you getting if you ping for example Google?







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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#12 - 2014-07-09 23:22:09 UTC
Truckers have been playing EvE on 2,3, and 4G since before the HTC Excalibur was state of the art.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-07-09 23:42:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
I use 3G regularly to connect to EVE.

When it works it works fine.

However with my 3G (rural Australia so pretty hopeless though word is the new Aussie government is upgrading to carrier pigeon soon) I find that EVE sometimes times out and disconnects. This occurs more often at peak times such as around the time the high schoolers get home from school and early evenings (even when the signal strength is very good) so I assume its a bandwidth issue.

I have got in the habit when EVE stops responding of going back to the launcher and starting a new play session. This gets you reconnected faster than just waiting till your current session eventually quits - which can be critical if you are scrammed.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#14 - 2014-07-10 00:17:39 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
I use 3G regularly to connect to EVE.

When it works it works fine.

However with my 3G (rural Australia so pretty hopeless though word is the new Aussie government is upgrading to carrier pigeon soon) I find that EVE sometimes times out and disconnects. This occurs more often at peak times such as around the time the high schoolers get home from school and early evenings (even when the signal strength is very good) so I assume its a bandwidth issue.

I have got in the habit when EVE stops responding of going back to the launcher and starting a new play session. This gets you reconnected faster than just waiting till your current session eventually quits - which can be critical if you are scrammed.



I used to fly with an FC from Australia who didn't have air conditioning and his computer would shut down from the heat.

Tell you what, I'll steal a cell tower for you and ship it over and you send me a '73 Ford Falcon XB.

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Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#15 - 2014-07-10 01:01:43 UTC
Absolutely works for me! HSDPA+ here!

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-07-10 01:46:22 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
I use 3G regularly to connect to EVE.

When it works it works fine.

However with my 3G (rural Australia so pretty hopeless though word is the new Aussie government is upgrading to carrier pigeon soon) I find that EVE sometimes times out and disconnects. This occurs more often at peak times such as around the time the high schoolers get home from school and early evenings (even when the signal strength is very good) so I assume its a bandwidth issue.

I have got in the habit when EVE stops responding of going back to the launcher and starting a new play session. This gets you reconnected faster than just waiting till your current session eventually quits - which can be critical if you are scrammed.



I used to fly with an FC from Australia who didn't have air conditioning and his computer would shut down from the heat.

Tell you what, I'll steal a cell tower for you and ship it over and you send me a '73 Ford Falcon XB.


You are better off with an XA Phase IV GTHO, it came with a 410 bhp Cleveland standard.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#17 - 2014-07-10 06:57:54 UTC
Every 100ms latency will add 0.5s to your lock-time.... Lol

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#18 - 2014-07-10 07:30:53 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
I use 3G regularly to connect to EVE.

When it works it works fine.

However with my 3G (rural Australia so pretty hopeless though word is the new Aussie government is upgrading to carrier pigeon soon) I find that EVE sometimes times out and disconnects. This occurs more often at peak times such as around the time the high schoolers get home from school and early evenings (even when the signal strength is very good) so I assume its a bandwidth issue.

I have got in the habit when EVE stops responding of going back to the launcher and starting a new play session. This gets you reconnected faster than just waiting till your current session eventually quits - which can be critical if you are scrammed.



I used to fly with an FC from Australia who didn't have air conditioning and his computer would shut down from the heat.

Tell you what, I'll steal a cell tower for you and ship it over and you send me a '73 Ford Falcon XB.


You are better off with an XA Phase IV GTHO, it came with a 410 bhp Cleveland standard.




:-O

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Janeway84
Insane's Asylum
#19 - 2014-07-10 08:46:18 UTC
works ok until the bugger sometimes randomly decides to overheat, sometimes runs weeks without disconnecting and yesterday i had 4 d.c happen to me during 3-4 h. Shocked
Would a desktop fan help reduce chance of a disconnect? Big smile
Jack' Sparrow
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-07-10 08:53:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack' Sparrow
I've had a look around and found this: - 3G Only Dongle Ext. Antenna

I haven't been able to find many others like this, can anyone recommend a better product?

I can source a directional antenna, however, the product itself seems to be quite an old model i.e. it doesn't support 4G etc ...

I'm pleased to see the ping is pretty steady, I was expecting it to be around 200 / 300ms based off research I've done.

Janeway84 wrote:
works ok until the bugger sometimes randomly decides to overheat, sometimes runs weeks without disconnecting and yesterday i had 4 d.c happen to me during 3-4 h. Shocked
Would a desktop fan help reduce chance of a disconnect? Big smile


Keeping it on a cool surface with ventilation should help with the overheating, a fan would probably help a bit to.