EVE General Discussion

Hello GD and welcome to another alt-post. Hopefully this one will be constructive. I would like to "post on my main," here, but for better or worse (and as a set-up to this challenge) it's been sold as of yesterday. I felt the urge to crawl back on my main while the skillqueue chugged a little higher would be too great. What I want here is a real simulation of what it's like to be a FW newbro. And since I haven't been a newbro in half a dozen years and know nothing about FW, I feel i'm uniquely positioned to make an interesting series of observations here.

What is the premise?
To roll a shiny new character, finish the tutorial missions and enroll directly into a militia to start begin shooting as soon as possible. I won't be seeding him any isk from my old character until later.

What do I want from you?

• Suggestions on which militia would be best to join. Emphasis on the acceptance of new and low-skilled pilots getting involved.
• Suggestions for bare-basics t1 frigate fits that would be useful. Any race will do, I haven't actually settled on which race I will run with and will probably cross train all frigates before too long anyhow.
• Corp suggestion, if you happen to know any FW corps that are generally accepting of lowbies. I intend to spend a few months in the general militia to get a good feel for what it's like to be corp-less first, but having a medium-term goal from that point would be nice.
• Commentary from your own experience if you've done something similar.
• Any questions that you would like me to answer or consider while I am attempting this challenge. I plan to keep a journal of sorts. I am not sure if it will spawn a blog or simply a series of, hopefully interesting, forum posts, but having other people's questions to answer might help me hit on new player problems I had not considered.

So, there you have it. If this is a played-out gimmick that's been done a hundred times before, I apologize for not passing the low-bar of creativity, but if you have any aforementioned questions, comments, or suggestions (or just want to troll me mercilessly - this is GD after all), then fire away.

Cheers.

sense it make does not. Sold old character, I thought you had.

Anyway, Caldari militia best militia.

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I used to love Caldari militia. But it was a few years ago.

I'd do my thing in wormholes and just leave a character online in FW militia channel. I ran solo, so would just join the random public fleets that were called up. I had a TON of fun joining those fleets and there was action guaranteed all day long! But then things changed, people became super, super spy-paranoid and the public fleets all but died out - leaving solo people solo unless they joined an established FW corp. So I left and just went back to wormholes full time.

Well I dunno what it's like these days. Maybe there's a ton of public fleet fun now for people who're solo? I'm sure there's also good, established corps too if joining one is something you might be interested in.

Someone like MNG up there might be more clued in to what Militia is like now days!

But if I ever left wormholes for some reason (unlikely!) then I'd go back to Caldari Militia again.

Given the only criteria you mentioned was newb friendly, I think they all fit. It really just comes down to whether or not you have any rp interest in one group or the other, and barring that, if you want to fight up-hill or down. Personally, and I've fought with the Minmatar since 2012, I'd say the Caldari need warm blood more than anyone else.



Atron, Condor, Slasher, Executioner seem to be the entry-entry-level ships for each race respectively. I don't have any t1 meta fits handy, but I'm sure someone with a few years experience can cook that up in EFT.



Basically all of them, with a few exceptions at the very elite end of the spectrum, take in newbies. Maybe not week-old newbies, but once you're a familiar face in militia fleets, you can network where you want to go.



I didn't start over to join FW, but I did go there with little relavent sp. I think I had ~5-6mil mostly mining skills when I joined the minmatar.



I'd be intersted in reading that.

A bit of bias identification before I begin: I have been a part of the Gallente Militia for years, participating in everything from solo frigate PvP to capital and supercapital operations. I have been a fleet commander, an EWAR operator, and a logistics coordinator. I have kited and brawled; I have held reps and I have broken them.

Many of the relevant corporations in the Gallente Militia provide a respectful environment for new pilot training and integration. I submit the following topic for your consideration.

The scram-kite Breacher (AB/scram/web/ASB), the meta-dodging armor-brawling Condor, and the venerable derptron (fit in linked topic) lend themselves to cheap, mildly deterministic PvP for low-SP pilots. You've arrived at a healthy time in the Tech I frigate PvP metagame, as the entire lot have been balanced and polished, allowing the lion's share of that type of ship to be played well in a variety of flavors and situations. Find out who the good PvPers are for what you want to do (Battleclinic is good for this, as well as zKillboard) and look up their losses.

Aideron Robotics and Justified Chaos stand out as corporations that have been able to handle their growth well, retaining many newer players as well as veterans. Black Fox Marauders, an Alliance partner, keeps the destruction of spaceships at the forefront of their thought, as there seems to be no target they are unwilling to engage and no ship they are unwilling to bring to the fight. I would respectfully suggest that you join a player corporation sooner rather than later, as integration (Intel Channels, TeamSpeak and Mumble access) is vastly driven by your affiliation with a group.

Truth be told, I'd quit playing Eve twice before I lost a Myrmidon, asked questions in Militia chat, got invited to join a corporation. The social aspect has kept me playing ever since. Everything from Christmas cards to pub crawls to ski trips have developed out of the friendships I've made as the result of participating in the Militia. I would eventually become director of that corporation that originally took me on as a rookie, allowing me to have conversations not unlike this one with pilots not unlike yourself.

Really, I'm curious as to what sort of feeling you would like to get out of Faction War. It's not for everyone, but that's never meant that it wasn't a good experience. What do you like doing? How many people do you want to play with? Anything that comes to mind would be great to talk about.

Nice to see a few more posts, and due thanks again.

To address a few things since my last post:

-I'm not looking for a guide on FW or anything like that. The ship/corp suggestion bit was more name recognition someone might have where I don't. As a player who has been around the block through low and null in the past I have a vague recollection of how to fit a ship properly. I'm just far out of the loop in the current meta. Thanks to Anders for the helpful linkage.

-Since I want this to emulate new-player experience as much as possible, i'm going to try a bit of everything that's racially flavored and light on sp requirements. If my evemon fu isn't terribly off, i'll spend about 2 days being a simple tackler, move up to racial ewar, then fill out my weapon skills a bit.

-What I, personally, hope to get out of this is a few things: Foremost, I would like to generate some content that new players can both emulate and relate to. As a close second, I'd like to indulge my inner rp a while, take in the narrative, enjoy the skirmishes, and basically digest new content and meet new people while encouraging other players to do the same.

-How many people do I want to play with? I'm not sure I care terribly much for a number, that seems arbitrary. I'm partial to medium sized groups I suppose, but I think variety is the spice of life. Solo, small gang, fleet, whatever. So long as the people are fun to be around, who really cares? Relating this back to the newb experience though, I think there's much to be said for operating in smaller, but not too small a group. Enough pilots that learning can give good feedback, but not so many that the F1 syndrome begins to take hold.

Summarily, I think it's really about putting my time where my mouth is/was. I've always been of the opinion that the new player in EVE could have a blast right from the outset and despite not knowing much about FW, I think it is becoming what I used to suggest nullsec was, so I'm going to make my journey through that process personally, publicly, and hopefully with some entertainment value added.

I may have over-thought the first post, but oh well. No, I have yet to settle on a militia and it really has less to do with corp than from what angle I want to write this narrative i'll be working on. I'm trying to digest a bit of the current events and look for a good angle that I think will be interesting to read and tolerable for me to write. I haven't had a lot of free time today to get down to business, but rest assured I will have the young man or woman in here at some point tonight when I feel my creative juices have found something to blend with.