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5B loan request @ 8% short term (full!)

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Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#1 - 2014-06-01 07:37:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Speculation Dave
Hello again!

I am looking for a new loan to help with my latest speculation.

I want to borrow 5B for 2-3 months and I am willing to offer 8% per month for that

I think it will only be 2 months but just in case I need longer I want to have the option for 3 months.

I will be using the isk to buy speculation stock for the kronos expansion. I will keep the stuff I buy in highsec stations and I may have to move some with courier contracts but no stupid risks will be taken

I have no collateral I can offer right now. So I dont mind having more than one investor but please at least 1B each or it will be a pain. I like Grendles idea of giving priority to large investors and past investors so I will do that to.

Here are the links to my old loans which have all been paid:-

2B loan request @ 10% for 2 weeks (No collateral)
20B loan request @ 2% long term (Battlecruisers as collateral and was 2.5% really)
30B loan request @ 6% medium term (No collateral)
10B loan @ 4% for 3 weeks (Battlecruisers as collateral)
60B loan refinance @ 2% long term (Battlecruisers and Battleships as collateral)
30B loan request @ 6% short term (No collateral)
30B loan request @ 6% short term (No collateral)

Here is the link to my last loan which did not get filled:-

20B loan request @ 6% short term (No collateral)

Thank you for your time!

Reservations:-
Rejuice K 5B receved
Rejuice K
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-06-01 08:37:31 UTC
i'll fill it with 5b
Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#3 - 2014-06-01 08:51:29 UTC
awesome!

send it over when you are ready
Rejuice K
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-06-01 08:58:22 UTC
isk send
Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#5 - 2014-06-01 09:04:04 UTC
thanks!

first intrest will be 400M at 1st july
Rejuice K
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-07-01 16:29:02 UTC
its the 1st of july :)
Rejuice K
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-07-02 20:16:06 UTC
So I still havent seen any sight of the loaner nor the interest, im wondering if his on vacation or something Roll
Mamad0u SAKHO
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-07-07 17:25:35 UTC
Rejuice K wrote:
So I still havent seen any sight of the loaner nor the interest, im wondering if his on vacation or something Roll



bye bye ISK, at least he give you collateral.
Rejuice K
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-07-07 20:02:02 UTC
Mamad0u SAKHO wrote:
Rejuice K wrote:
So I still havent seen any sight of the loaner nor the interest, im wondering if his on vacation or something Roll



bye bye ISK, at least he give you collateral.


What I find strange is that a 4 days old toon, who has only been trying to sell 2 moons and never been on the MD forum comes here and post, that smells rather fishy - I suppose its just an alt of the OP.

But atleast we now all know that the OP can never be trusted again
okoolos rimmer
Napkin Nation
#10 - 2014-07-07 22:57:18 UTC
Looks like the guy decided to cash out on his rep. The days of uncollateralized loans are really coming to a close.
SCLZ
New Eden Shipyards
#11 - 2014-07-08 05:17:47 UTC
Looking at some of those numbers 5b ISK seems a little low for him to aim for if he planned to cash out I would have thought?

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#12 - 2014-07-08 05:48:04 UTC
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#13 - 2014-07-08 06:56:06 UTC
SCLZ wrote:
Looking at some of those numbers 5b ISK seems a little low for him to aim for if he planned to cash out I would have thought?

5B is better than nothing. Given that RAW23 had already called out Speculation Dave as my alt in the previous loan thread.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#14 - 2014-07-08 07:56:05 UTC
SCLZ
New Eden Shipyards
#15 - 2014-07-08 08:11:04 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
5B is better than nothing.

Well certainly can't argue with that Big smile

Still, I reckon there would have been some folks who would have fronted up with a combined sum greater than 5b - but maybe I'm being overly optimistic/pessimistic.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#16 - 2014-07-08 09:05:02 UTC
SCLZ wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
5B is better than nothing.
Well certainly can't argue with that Big smile

Still, I reckon there would have been some folks who would have fronted up with a combined sum greater than 5b - but maybe I'm being overly optimistic/pessimistic.

Sure, I could have put up another loan request in the 20-30B range and hoped to get away with the isk before the MD police arrived on the scene.

However, larger uncollateralised loans tend to take longer to fill and so the risk would have been greater. There were also other time constraints due to the fact that the account only had something like 2 days left on it's sub.

I wasn't interested in getting in to a situation where I was having to defend another blatantly obvious alt from RAW23's advanced eyebrow analysis techniques just so I could liberate an extra 25B.

I think it's important to know when to walk away from a failed scam, because time spent trying to salvage this would have been better spent on something else.
Plleasure Hub
Municorn
#17 - 2014-07-08 13:01:44 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
I stole your stuff, and my soul has been consumed by greed like jello in a retirement home.

I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for RAW23's advanced eyebrow analysis techniques.

We have you in our database now, punk. You will never set foot 100 AU near MD with those eyebrow again.

"There's no meaningful difference between a real and a virtual world. It's pointless to ask anyone who they really are. All you can do is accept and believe in them, because whoever they are in your mind, is their true identity." — Kazuto Kirigaya

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#18 - 2014-07-08 15:46:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Bad Bobby wrote:


I wasn't interested in getting in to a situation where I was having to defend another blatantly obvious alt from RAW23's advanced eyebrow analysis techniques just so I could liberate an extra 25B.

I think it's important to know when to walk away from a failed scam, because time spent trying to salvage this would have been better spent on something else.


As you know, RAW23 was not the only one getting suspicious with "eyebrows analysis", in fact if I recall correctly I mentioned there's also (at least) another alt of yours "brewing up" on MD.

However I was a bit disappointed at getting out with just 5B, seeing the past bonds I'd have imagined a run off with say 20B or more, the rep grinding done would have allowed for that.

The "sub about to expire" thing does not convince me really much. Knowing you could at a minimum gather 10B and walk off, those additional 5B would have afforded the alt way more than a 1 month PLEX sub renewal. Basically you'd have put 700M or so on the platter to get off with 10B (if not 20, 1 month could afford you to accept a slow ISK trickle).
flakeys
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-07-08 15:52:48 UTC
At times you take the bullet ... at times you dodge them , looks like i dodged a bullet a while back Blink .




We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#20 - 2014-07-08 16:50:59 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
As you know, RAW23 was not the only one getting suspicious with "eyebrows analysis", in fact if I recall correctly I mentioned there's also (at least) another alt of yours "brewing up" on MD.

Sorry, I don't mean to give RAW23 all the glory. I'm sure you and the other people who posted wise statements in these threads can figure out how to share the scalp. But I do feel that RAW23's clinical assassination of Blueprint Seller was pretty telling. With the underlying shill character totally discredited, he then had total traction on any accusations he cared to make about Speculation Dave.

Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
However I was a bit disappointed at getting out with just 5B, seeing the past bonds I'd have imagined a run off with say 20B or more, the rep grinding done would have allowed for that.

You and me both... and certainly I had my eyes on 50B+ for this particular sequence. But it wasn't to be.

Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
The "sub about to expire" thing does not convince me really much. Knowing you could at a minimum gather 10B and walk off, those additional 5B would have afforded the alt way more than a 1 month PLEX sub renewal. Basically you'd have put 700M or so on the platter to get off with 10B (if not 20, 1 month could afford you to accept a slow ISK trickle).

It wasn't really a factor in the decision to exit at 5B, it was a factor in the timing of that exit.

flakeys wrote:
At times you take the bullet ... at times you dodge them , looks like i dodged a bullet a while back Blink .
Yeah, I had 25B of public isk in my hands on that one. Big smile

But I wouldn't have been able to live with scamming you or VV. So I had to roll the dice some more.
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