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The Cost of Fun

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Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-07-03 22:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Chewytowel Haklar
I used to think that games were meant to be escapes, you log in and you let go. The world itself lets you escape into it and you make the game what it is by the experiences you have and the friends you make. Somewhere along the line it seems even a game became a job, with people carrying on multiple accounts, bots, or even using third party services in these massively multiplayer games. When you can't just play a game and let go it seems to become some kind of indentured servitude where you log in just to do things that will hopefully allow you to play the game the way you want and truly enjoy yourself.

I have a passion, a truly great passion deep inside me, and that passion feels deadened by the need to 'work' at something meant to be enjoyed. I feel that it is disturbing when others feel they have to earn their game time just so they can do what they want to do. I get that it is cool to be able to forgo having to pay and therefore play the game free for a set time. However, what is the true cost that is involved when forgoing paying the $15 a month fee to play EVE and build content that will inspire others to just play. The very thought of having to grind to earn Isk and waste away time doing things which are boring sucks to me. Aren't we the game? Aren't the people what make the experience noteworthy and worth it to bother to log in every day? I see you people grinding out missions and carrying out tasks just like you might in real life and seemingly lacking the ability to just let go. What happens in a game when we emulate life inside of it letting it be nothing more then a sheer reflection of who we are as a people? Everyone seeming to run around and do errands as the new player logs in looking for others to play with that are too busy to care.

Can we just let go. I challenge you to let go, let live, and have fun.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2014-07-03 22:32:50 UTC
I enjoy working towards a goal.
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-07-03 22:52:21 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I enjoy working towards a goal.


Goals are wonderful to have when you clearly know what it is that you want to do. Nothing wrong with them at all in my opinion. :)
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#4 - 2014-07-03 22:56:18 UTC
who care someone got 10 alts he plays same time the option is there do what you like.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-07-03 23:05:25 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:

Can we just let go. I challenge you to let go, let live, and have fun.


You're creepy. Go away.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~

KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#6 - 2014-07-03 23:31:27 UTC
I like turtles.

Dum Spiro Spero

Nose' Feliciano
#7 - 2014-07-03 23:50:15 UTC
If it feels like work, it is no longer a game.

Ive left many games because of this.
Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-07-03 23:50:44 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:

I have a passion, a truly great passion deep inside me, and that passion feels deadened by the need to 'work' at something meant to be enjoyed.


The quote is a glimpse into an empty soul that knows neither true passion nor true hard work.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#9 - 2014-07-03 23:52:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
I have a passion, a truly great passion deep inside me, and that passion feels deadened by the need to 'work' at something meant to be enjoyed.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Nose' Feliciano
#10 - 2014-07-04 00:03:27 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
I have a passion, a truly great passion deep inside me, and that passion feels deadened by the need to 'work' at something meant to be enjoye.


-Hooker's Creed
stoicfaux
#11 - 2014-07-04 00:16:20 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I enjoy working towards a goal.

Damn Belgians.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#12 - 2014-07-04 00:34:28 UTC
Actually just noticed that three of us picked up on the same sentence.

Op, you do not understand those words.
Adunh Slavy
#13 - 2014-07-04 00:54:22 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Actually just noticed that three of us picked up on the same sentence.

Op, you do not understand those words.



Perhaps it is you that do not understand what he is saying.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#14 - 2014-07-04 01:15:10 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:


...

I have a passion, a truly great passion deep inside me, and that passion feels deadened by the need to 'work' at something meant to be enjoyed. I feel that it is disturbing when others feel they have to earn their game time just so they can do what they want to do. I get that it is cool to be able to forgo having to pay and therefore play the game free for a set time. However, what is the true cost that is involved when forgoing paying the $15 a month fee to play EVE and build content that will inspire others to just play. The very thought of having to grind to earn Isk and waste away time doing things which are boring sucks to me.

...



Grinding is a hallmark of bad game design. You know when people talk about EVE being a terrible game? It is. It is an absolutely awful game, and that is shown by its miniscule player retention rate. It is, however, a quite comprehensive system that works well within itself and has many different aspects - from building the stuff you need in the world to destroying it. Its complexity attracts certain people. As an economic and market simulator it's not bad, either. And of course it's heaven for griefers. But a fun game it is not - it becomes tedious after a while which is why even veteran players often quit and take long breaks.
Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-07-04 01:30:40 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:


...

I have a passion, a truly great passion deep inside me, and that passion feels deadened by the need to 'work' at something meant to be enjoyed. I feel that it is disturbing when others feel they have to earn their game time just so they can do what they want to do. I get that it is cool to be able to forgo having to pay and therefore play the game free for a set time. However, what is the true cost that is involved when forgoing paying the $15 a month fee to play EVE and build content that will inspire others to just play. The very thought of having to grind to earn Isk and waste away time doing things which are boring sucks to me.

...



Grinding is a hallmark of bad game design. You know when people talk about EVE being a terrible game? It is. It is an absolutely awful game, and that is shown by its miniscule player retention rate. It is, however, a quite comprehensive system that works well within itself and has many different aspects - from building the stuff you need in the world to destroying it. Its complexity attracts certain people. As an economic and market simulator it's not bad, either. And of course it's heaven for griefers. But a fun game it is not - it becomes tedious after a while which is why even veteran players often quit and take long breaks.



I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now....


Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#16 - 2014-07-04 01:41:30 UTC
Cancel Align NOW wrote:
Ptraci wrote:
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:


...

I have a passion, a truly great passion deep inside me, and that passion feels deadened by the need to 'work' at something meant to be enjoyed. I feel that it is disturbing when others feel they have to earn their game time just so they can do what they want to do. I get that it is cool to be able to forgo having to pay and therefore play the game free for a set time. However, what is the true cost that is involved when forgoing paying the $15 a month fee to play EVE and build content that will inspire others to just play. The very thought of having to grind to earn Isk and waste away time doing things which are boring sucks to me.

...



Grinding is a hallmark of bad game design. You know when people talk about EVE being a terrible game? It is. It is an absolutely awful game, and that is shown by its miniscule player retention rate. It is, however, a quite comprehensive system that works well within itself and has many different aspects - from building the stuff you need in the world to destroying it. Its complexity attracts certain people. As an economic and market simulator it's not bad, either. And of course it's heaven for griefers. But a fun game it is not - it becomes tedious after a while which is why even veteran players often quit and take long breaks.



I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now....



Fixed your post for you Lol

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2014-07-04 01:47:33 UTC
Jimmy O'Shanty
The Westies
#18 - 2014-07-04 02:16:42 UTC
Stop reading about EVE stories and endeavour to make your own. Even if only your wife hears about them.

And yes the better the story the bigger the commitment.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#19 - 2014-07-04 04:19:08 UTC
Just to be clear, most MMO's don't suck the life out of you the way EVE can if you let it. Unfortunately EVE as a casual game isn't very rewarding.

Pack your stuff up, stick it in a station and go play something else for 6 months. Check in every so often, see if things are more to your liking. This isn't 2001. We aren't limited to half a dozen games anymore.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2014-07-04 09:39:19 UTC
I enjoy being able to play a game that Not every kid can afford to pay for. I like to be in a mature comunity of profanity. F2P is a big fat lie.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

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