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How about new Destroyers?

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Rhastafan
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-12-06 09:16:04 UTC
That mount medium sized weapons? It seems a logical progression now that we have Battlecruisers mounting large sized weapons.
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#2 - 2011-12-06 09:29:41 UTC
Came into thread prepared to give detailed analysis of buffed destroyers. I'm leaving feeling somewhat cheated. I think there's a better chance of the AF being redone in this fashion.
Max Von Sydow
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2011-12-06 11:02:42 UTC
I would rather see new destroyers using the other weapon systems for each race.
Drones for gallente, light missiles for caldari and rockets (?) for amarr. No idea what minmatar should get, unless they get the rockets and amarr get something else.
Pappy McGee
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-12-06 11:30:15 UTC
How about fourth tier battleships with XL guns! It seems a logical progression now that we have Battlecruisers mounting large size weapons...
DaDudeinDump
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-12-06 12:29:43 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Came into thread prepared to give detailed analysis of buffed destroyers. I'm leaving feeling somewhat cheated. I think there's a better chance of the AF being redone in this fashion.


Frigates with medium guns? I wonder how that would look...
Korin Corax
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-12-06 13:12:23 UTC
DaDudeinDump wrote:
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Came into thread prepared to give detailed analysis of buffed destroyers. I'm leaving feeling somewhat cheated. I think there's a better chance of the AF being redone in this fashion.


Frigates with medium guns? I wonder how that would look...


Silly?


Would rather see Command Destroyers as boosters for frig gangs tbh. That said I still think Stealth Bombers should of used Destroyer hulls, but that's just a personal thing.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#7 - 2011-12-06 13:19:00 UTC
Korin Corax wrote:
DaDudeinDump wrote:
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Came into thread prepared to give detailed analysis of buffed destroyers. I'm leaving feeling somewhat cheated. I think there's a better chance of the AF being redone in this fashion.


Frigates with medium guns? I wonder how that would look...


Silly?

Why not add more with large weapons, because bombers are fine yeah?

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Abenham
Lone Wolves Sub.
#8 - 2011-12-06 13:27:31 UTC
That Imicus and that Velator look awesome! Rifter with an oversized gun on it looks cool too!
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2011-12-06 13:36:00 UTC
What we need is new tier 2 dreads with XXL-sized weapons that can destroy planets. Its a logical followup for the new tier3 battlecruisers.
Wyte Ragnarok
#10 - 2011-12-06 14:07:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Wyte Ragnarok
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Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-12-06 15:35:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Fix My Lasers
Rhastafan wrote:
That mount medium sized weapons? It seems a logical progression now that we have Battlecruisers mounting large sized weapons.


Actually it is interesting.
Since new t3 BCs are useless Destroyers with the medium guns might work.

Or even boost Assault Frigs so they could mount them.

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Alara IonStorm
#12 - 2011-12-06 16:48:41 UTC
Fix My Lasers wrote:

Since new t3 BCs are useless

The amount of stupidity in this statement is...

Well it is frankly just incredible.
Goose99
#13 - 2011-12-06 16:54:58 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Fix My Lasers wrote:

Since new non-Winmatar t3 BCs are useless

The amount of stupidity in this statement is...

Well it is frankly just incredible.


There, I fixed that for you. Happy?Big smile
Rawls Canardly
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-12-06 16:59:18 UTC
Id rather see heavy bombers and new hulls.
Alara IonStorm
#15 - 2011-12-06 16:59:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Goose99 wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Fix My Lasers wrote:

Since new non-Winmatar t3 BCs are useless

The amount of stupidity in this statement is...

Well it is frankly just incredible.


There, I fixed that for you. Happy?Big smile

Fare enough.

Though the Amarr one is not bad to be honest.

But god the Nado is just somethin else.
Filan Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
#16 - 2011-12-06 20:35:42 UTC
Tier 2 destroyers would be pretty awesome. caldari one with 8 light launchers(Super-Kestral! basically).

the big issue with Destroyers is they have a huge sig but do not always back that up with the right amount of pew pew. and buffing them always gets the AF crowd's panties in a knot because they fear a tech 1 boat that is far cheaper than their AF being able to alpha said AF(id imagine 8 light missiles being a good sized threat to an AF or even an inty if such a destroyer existed)
Wyte Ragnarok
#17 - 2011-12-06 21:49:01 UTC
Max Von Sydow wrote:
light missiles for caldari


A new Caldari destroyer with 8 light missile launchers would be quite fun
Skinae
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-12-06 22:01:26 UTC
I want a Tech 3 Destroyer so amazingly bad.

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Norris Packard
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2011-12-06 23:23:04 UTC
First there is a historic basis for the new style of Battlecruisers. Tier 1 & 2 BCs are based off of the historic German battlecruiser philosophy and the new tier 3s are based off of the English battlecruiser philosophy and the proposal has been floating around out there to add in the English style since the introduction of teir 1 battlecruisers. There was a major role to fill with the current tier 3s that is fast firepower that can keep up with cruiser gangs.

Destroyers on the other hand are escort vessels to protect the fleet from smaller threats such as drones and frigates they are there for fire support and while I would love to see more variety of destroyers out there cramming on medium weapon systems really has no role. There are already light cruisers that do a better job in the destroyer role already and so what you are proposing would just make weaker existing ships. If you want fast cruiser firepower with medium guns try flying a Nanoed Shield buffered Stabber/Omen/Caracal (I am sure a gallente one can also fit this role) any of these would be able to fill this role that you seem to be trying to build a new class around.

These cruisers can be fitted with Nanofibers or Polycarbon Engine Housings to give them the agility and speed of the current destroyers while still having enough slots to fit them out with much better protection and firepower than their destroyer friends.

I personaly would like to see destroyers that have the powergrid, CPU, and hull attributes of a cruiser, light drone bays with less guns than the current renditions but allowing utility highs and more dps than the current Destroyers as long as their drones are out and as long as they survive but less dps when the drones are killed. Make them tough and built to stay with the fleet but still focuses on their intended targets, small ships.
MetalDev
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-12-06 23:49:09 UTC
Destroyers need some love. Its like they were completely ignored. They dont really do much of anything particularly well, and you never see them. Maybe tier 2 destroyers should be made and a bit less useless. Theyre a relic from early days of eve
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