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Okay, this question might easily be laughed off, but here it goes anyway. Would anyone out there be willing to lend me 3 or 4 billion ISK @ 5% interest per month for a period of 2 or 3 months, uncollateralized?

Yes, basically the worst terms ever.. Haha. xD But hey, I would actually pay you back, and it would earn you ~200 million monthly.

I do not even know if I could achieve that kind of deal here on MD yet, but it would be pretty awesome. A longer term would mean I could pick up a few new BPOs with high IPH & SVR and reach break-even before the principal was due. Combined with my current liquid ISK, I would be in a great position to profit highly during the Crius storm. I could pay you the interest each month or all at the end.

I have been API checked before by Koniforous. I could provide you my limited API, depending on who you are. The only alt I trust on here so far is Isaac Schwartz, who I see as a father figure.

You can find a lot of detailed info about me and my financials in my most recent loan thread. I am worth nearly 19B with no outstanding debt and monthly earnings of 3.7B. I have been building things for profit since I was a baby podling back in 2006. I did spend a while in cryosleep after my alliance was slaughtered by BoB's invasion of Providence. Those were dark times.. But now I am stronger and looking to surpass god!

Edit: Oh, Koniforous is changing his minimum rates back to 8% for trusted clients, so just wanted to add I will probably increase my debts from 0 to 500M to work towards that with his bank. :D

So the CEO of the scam bank verifies you're trustworthy........

Probably not in the sense that you mean. I am a manufacturer, first and foremost. I have done a tiny amount of trading when I saw opportunities within the markets I normally deal in, but most of my ISK comes from building things in high demand.

Patches always bring about a flurry of activity, and that is what I want in on. With Crius being such a promising overhaul, I imagine there is going to be a huge amount of change in player behavior. There is the potential for a lot of carebear death, too, which is great for sales. :D

Most importantly, the changes in mechanics Crius offers (such as much easier copying and the ability to build runs of an item in a trade hub without wait times) may give me the ability to quickly expand the systems and items I deal in. It will be much faster to produce copies and cart them to far-away systems, set up a PUSH contract to provide the materials I need there, and start supplying other areas of New Eden.

Let me clarify that I only said he API checked me, not that he vouches for my trustworthiness. I do have references who can vouch for me from my previous corp. If there is an interested lender who wants this info, I can provide that.

To answer the question that you are wondering, "Well, why don't they just lend you the ISK?" Only one of them is actually wealthy enough to finance a loan of this size, and sadly, he said he plans to take a break from EVE. So he does not want to start up any new deals. He was the sugar daddy who gave me my first 500M loan last year. The others are rather poor compared to me, I think, but they are good people.

Thanks for confirmation, Koniforous. I have also completed loans with Bayaz Sharvas and Trader Frank. Again, they cannot vouch for my noble heart, but they can confirm I repaid their loans according to the agreed upon terms.

At least the thread title was accurate.

So.....you're basically saying that if this loan doesn't get filled you will offer something better? Well you can certainly expect someone to fill this loan now.

Heh, Plleasure Hub I have to say I've rather enjoyed reading your posts in MD - especially the rather detailed progress reports on your previous loans. I get the impression you genuinely like playing with the market and manufacturing in EVE which I can relate to and it was good to see someone else really getting into it.

Uncollateralised loans are a bit outside my comfort zone at the moment otherwise I probably would have jumped in on your previous offers but 5% for 3 or 4bil for 2 or 3 months... got to say I think you're pushing things a bridge too far with this latest offer Though you kinda already thought that yourself from the start of the thread.

I guess the relative silence from MD forum goers on this offer speaks volumes about what people here think of you though, I reckon most folks who tried these terms would have been ridiculed relentlessly within minutes of the first post

Who knows you might find that angel investor that would agree to these terms. If not I hope you do rework the offer to make it more palatable for the more average investor.

Anyway that was my 0.01 ISK, best of luck with the offer - either way I hope to see more of your posts around

haha, nice scam

You say you're worth 19bl and your making 3.7bl a month. Work for another month and you'll have the 4bl. You don't need a 4bl loan.

If it smells like a scam, it probably is.

sure, bring your alts to back you up

1) You say you're making 3.7bl a month. Keep doing it and in 2 months you'll have the 8bl you need.
2) 2 months shouldn't be alot of time for you since you've been playing for 8 years now (2006).
3) 3.7bl from a 19bl capital is about 20%. By the end of the year you'll be at 165bl.

To me it all looks like a scam. Your reasons are contradicting each other.