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HAMS vs Frigates - When do target painters beat webs?
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Wu Jiaqiu
#1 - 2014-06-05 17:58:34 UTC
Let's say an Interceptor or another class of Frigate is moving at about 1500 with an AB turned on.

Will HAMS hit better with...

Dual webs

One web / One painter

Dual painters
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-06-05 18:08:56 UTC
Probably outside 13km.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#3 - 2014-06-05 18:58:16 UTC
Webs are more useful for that. Each web reduces velocity by a massive amount, each paint increases sig by a mediocre amount. If it's an AB-ceptor, you can comfortably (dual)web it down to 200ms and profit all the way.
Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#4 - 2014-06-05 21:44:53 UTC
Painters help more when they're outside web range (obviously).

Webs help more as long as their POST-webbed speed is >= your missile explosion velocity.

Painters help more as long as their current speed is <= explosion velocity.

The exact point at which a painter becomes better than a web is somewhere between those last two.
Deerin
East Trading Co Ltd
#5 - 2014-06-06 10:09:45 UTC
For that case it is dual webs....even then, you'll be doing only 20%-25% of your dps.

Engaging frigs with HAM's or Heavies is usually a sad story. If you will be in web range, make sure you have a neut on highs to turn that AB off. When that AB is off, having one web and one painter might be better than dual webs.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-06-06 10:43:39 UTC
Wu Jiaqiu wrote:
Let's say an Interceptor or another class of Frigate is moving at about 1500 with an AB turned on.

Will HAMS hit better with...

Dual webs

One web / One painter

Dual painters



After you have already 2 webs on target, or when the target is faster than you and can easily avoid you webbing him.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#7 - 2014-06-07 09:20:31 UTC
The golems painter bonus in conjunction with rhml can make the use of webs unnecessary. Even a torp golem can smash frigates.
Topher Basquette Dusch-shur
Montana Freedom Fighters
#8 - 2014-06-26 20:52:31 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
The golems painter bonus in conjunction with rhml can make the use of webs unnecessary. Even a torp golem can smash frigates.



Don't forget the Huginn! Then you can do both!
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#9 - 2014-07-01 17:09:43 UTC
Torp golem gets 1000 dps. With the right gear you can blow a frigs sig over 100. Rhml golem eats frigs. Cruise golem would be able to smack them. Torp golem.. don't stop moving or you die.