EVE General Discussion

Recently I decided to downscale from my much loved 140 million skill point main, the plan to spread my skill points across different accounts in the hopes to maximize the potential of the up and coming industrial changes.

My character was "Bland Inquisitor" and after a little bit of market research I estimated his value at around 50-60 billion isk. I planned out how much money needed to go where to make my new direction a reality.

I place all my assets on courier contracts to jita and my capitals on the open market at a firesale rate to get a quick sale. I drop from my corporation after sending a mail saying I was to be sold and headed to Jita to await my assets to sell them and write up a sale thread.



The sale, I get contacted by multiple interested parties, some character resellers outright. I get approached by Ellon JTC a member of provibloc, he desperately wants the character. Although I receive an offer of 52b from a reseller I opt to take an offer of 47b from Ellon under the proviso that he was not a character reseller and it was all the money he had for a new main character. I felt good about helping another player. We even added each other to contacts and left the conversation friendly. I had also noted that a Cruor was still in build, if he wanted to contract this back to be he could but it would be no big deal if he wanted it as a bonus.

Soon after it hit him, I've still got two courier contracts coming to jita and a dread left on sale. The buyer seems like a nice guy however so instead of terminating the contract I instead send him mails, asking him to return anything I can't get back through other means. The courier contracts were easy, they were simply broken and the times taken by my alt.

The dread however, was probably already sold. Being listed at 2.3b instead of its market value of 2.7b I was sure it would of been sold by the end of the transfer period and the buyer would simply return the isk or ship if it didn't sell. This unfortunatly didn't happen. Once I had send the mails regarding the assets in transit/contracts all communications with the buyer went dead. The characters involved in the sale went offline for 3 days.

I send a petition, knowing that assets and isk cannot be part of a sale and having previous experience with mistakes regarding character transactions I was confident in my trust of the system put in place by CCP. This was a mistake.


3 Days pass, the first thing I get is a smug eve mail by the buyer claiming he didn't have to give my assets back;

Removed GM correspondence. _ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Suddenly it took a drastic turn for the worse;

(to be continued)

INB4 nuclear lock.

Also Hi Bland

You do realize that it's forbidden to post conversations with CCP employees without their approval right?

On topic: why on earth did you set up courier contracts instead of simple item exchange with yourself?!

I'm not very good at multi-tasking.
I'm still in shock, I knew it was 50/50 but to say "yes we will transfer the assets back" then "no its now compensation because the buyer sold it already" just infuriates me.

of course you didnt just copy past the rules into the petition ending this whole thing. gj fail.

INB4TL

You created this thread to whine about a measly 2.7 billion? Seriously, the normal response would be to suck it up and move on, not brand yourself as an idiot whiner on the eve forums for all to see.

Frankly, the title of your thread is misleading.

CCP didn't gift anyone anything. They simply chose not to correct your screwup. The management of the assets on your accounts is not CCP's responsibility. It's yours.

Technically, it relates to this:



In theory, he violated the terms of the character bazaar by not making that disclosure. In theory, CCP probably should have invalidated the sale, but that would have involved a lot of backtracking to find assets and the like, in addition to refunding the transfer cost, which could involved :realmonies: and a credit card company. So they took the other route, which is - you didn't comply with the rules, so you're SOL.

In practice, they could add a script that runs during the transfer process that checks for assets (other than rookie ships), unfinished contracts, and a wallet balance greater than some minimal amount (say 5 - 10 million ISK). If either of those flags is tripped, the transfer fails, and the onus is on the seller to correct the problem in a timely fashion.

Yeah, but that seems like way more effort than is justified by the issue