Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Just because im telling u that ur idea is bad doesnt mean i need to come up with one of my own. Im saying the current system is better than what ur suggesting.



what makes u think this has anything to do with null sec?
theres something like 8 times as many players in high sec as there is null sec.

So what if we forget about gate restrictions, but do something with cyno's on a smaller scale. Say if to much mass cyno's into a system within a given amount of time, say 5 minutes, the system will destabilize, and no cyno's can be lit for 30-60 minutes.

What I am trying to get at here, is some sort of mechanic to break up the blobs.

PVPers have been complaining about blob warfare for as long as I have been playing, yet it only seems to get worse. No matter how much we complain about bad mechanics, it is those same mechanics we continue to rely on to win battles. There has to be a way to stop this cycle, to revitalize PVP, and bring a new era to Null sec.

Thecoming indy changes are nice, but null sec dwellers are not indy players, they are primarily PVPers. many have indy alts, but dedicated indy players will never be more than renters there.

Players play PVP games, to PVP, not spend hours roaming for a few very one sided fights, or to spend hours in fleet getting yelled at by an over zealous FC. For the small gang PVP to really be what everybody seems to want it to be, we first need to breath new life into null sec. There are far to many system simply held as buffer, with near zero activity, aside from the occasional moon mining tower.

I know it seems like I pick on GSF a lot, but mostly i do not hate them, they are just the biggest threat, or the iconic bad guy, however you want to look at it.they are the best example we have to work with. this is as much if not more a compliment to GSF as anything. Everyone knows who they are, and they are the dominant force in null sec since TEST fell, some would say, since long before that.

Well any ways, for an example; GOONSWARM currently has over 11,000 members, and holds over 230 systems. How many of those do they actually use? I took a trip through their space with COVOPS. once you get through the pipe past their borders, it is empty space, I saw the occasional ratter, that panicked as soon as I entered local, but for the most part, almost every system I passed through was empty. What a waste. I mean, I get why they hold all that space, and it is the current bad mechanics that make it necessary. but it is still a huge waste. Null sec, just feels dead, aside from the few systems the big alliances actually use, and a few small pockets fought over by smaller groups. 80% of null sec is empty dead space.

A major change to null sec mechanics is needed. the changes made a few years ago to SOV mechanics are for the most part, all good changes. but how do we eliminate the need for power block alliances to hold such huge amounts of space, if not eliminate the need for those power blocks in the first place.

This is a forum for ideas, CCP has nothing, or they would have fixed it by now. So enough trolling, lets come up with an idea that will actually work.

Then whoever gets the first cyno lit gets an untouchable ball of supers for an hour.

How about this:

Buff nullsec income, across the board. Not moon mining though, anoms and plexes. At the same time, bring in a way for this income to be taxed at the aliance level, not just the corp one.

If you look at the map, http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png you'll see three of the four biggest colour blobs are rental alliances. If the rental income could be replaced by an internal source, like making nullsec ratting income actually higher than highsec incursion/mission income (BRING BACK BLASTER RATTING), then perhaps these enormous rental slums could be freed up?

Trashing the need for rental fields like we have now would be a better way to start breaking up the powerblocs than mechanics that automatically hand the victory to the side that gets on grid first at least, though I freely admit that this is not a well thought out idea.

nice to see some ideas

I like it.

I do agree for the most part, EVE as far as the game code, playability, etc. goes, is in a better place then it has ever been. yet we have an average numbers of players logged in of only half what it was this time last year.

I am sure a lot of things will be fixed when the supers get there balance pass, but that could be another year.

Wormhole space is in very good shape, lots of small gang fights, lots of PVP, very little drama. I know there is much more to this then just the lack of local. what I keep coming back to is the limited fleet size. In a wormhole, you only get so much mass, then you have to roll the hole hoping to hit the same system again, to get more ships in. this has prevented blobbing in wormholes. that is where my original idea came from. But as many pointed out, mass limits in null sec will likely cause more problems then it would solve.

As far as the blue donut goes, I think everyone agrees, but before anything can be done about it, we need to determine the key mechanics, that created the blue donut to begin with. Why do players who seek PVP, prevent the very PVP they want by making all there neighbors friendly or blue?

Why do null sec PVPers surround themselves with so much blue space? there are obvious reasons, buffer against invasion fleets, they can not make one jump from your border to your home system. It is also easier to defend high value moons if they are in space you control. but to leave these mechanics in place, null sec needs to be much bigger. or jump range needs to be much smaller, or perhaps a combination.

What if the distance between constellations was increased, The distance between regions increased even more, and jump range was slightly nerfed. 10 lightyears jump range, would cover far less systems, making the required buffer much smaller in terms of numbers of systems. the basic map would be the same, constellations would stay easily accessible, but moving between constellations, or across regional boarders would be much more difficult. range of jump gates would be much greater keeping subcap travel about the same, but no more capitals crossing entire regions in two jumps.

Supers are the end game, they are meant to be game changers, but they where never meant to be used in super cap blobs. It is easy to say just nerf them, but I do not believe that is the answer. even the original Titan which was way more powerful then we have now, was not over powered, not at first, not until fleets of them started to show up at single battles. now you can see 200 supers show up for a single battle. that is the problem, not the ships themselves, but what to do a What is the answer. nerf them to the point nobody will want to use them, possibly, if you don't mind losing a large portion of the veteran players that spent years training into a titan. What would be fair to both sides? if we could find that answer, we would have a solution CCP would likely work with.

Good idea,
One of the biggest issues with power blocks giving up large amounts of space is income, most alliances currently, dispite current changes, get a lot of there income from moons. Those moons are spread over large area's, and need to be defended.

Mechanics to feed alliance coffers from the bottom up I agree are needed, and are a major problem.

Corps can already tax ratting income, but where is the alliances piece of the pie? There should be an alliance tax, that taxes a percentage of all isk going into the wallets of its member corps.

Your corp gets 10% of your rating income, the alliance gets 10% of that, basically 1% of your ratting income. But not just ratting income, much industrial activity, at least at POSes, requires use of a corp wallet division, this should allow those activities to be taxed as well. If industrial activity within an alliance generated passive income for that alliance, that might encourage them to tolerate more industrial minded characters in their ranks.