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Holgrak Blacksmith
Prophets of Motav
#1 - 2014-06-25 21:47:39 UTC
Is 3 reinforced bulkheads the way to go for the most gank proof freighter? Cargo hold size not being an issue.
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-06-25 21:55:55 UTC
You are about to be told that nothing is gank-proof.
Goochan derp
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-06-25 22:15:40 UTC
3 bulkheads is the most ehp you can get out of a freighter, but 3 A-type adaptive nano plates will get you pretty close
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-06-25 22:40:27 UTC
Goochan derp wrote:
3 bulkheads is the most ehp you can get out of a freighter, but 3 A-type adaptive nano plates will get you pretty close

And with no loss of cargo space. Especially on an Obelisk if you assume a typical CODE style gank squad using Void ammo and go with Kinetic/Thermal/Adaptive for 347,667 EHP vs Void.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2014-06-26 00:53:50 UTC
You can also invest in some implants to increase your shields, armor, and hull hp. And the Slave Implant set can increase your raw armor hp by 20 to 50% depending on what grade you get.

How did you Veterans start?
Holgrak Blacksmith
Prophets of Motav
#6 - 2014-06-26 05:51:24 UTC
Thanks, consider this closed.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-06-26 10:13:38 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
You can also invest in some implants to increase your shields, armor, and hull hp. And the Slave Implant set can increase your raw armor hp by 20 to 50% depending on what grade you get.

now that i think about it, a full grade snake set and some adaptive plating seems like a pretty funny way to troll suicide gankers.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#8 - 2014-06-26 11:44:59 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
You can also invest in some implants to increase your shields, armor, and hull hp. And the Slave Implant set can increase your raw armor hp by 20 to 50% depending on what grade you get.

now that i think about it, a full grade snake set and some adaptive plating seems like a pretty funny way to troll suicide gankers.


I'm sure you meant Slaves not Snakes =P but yeah, now if a ganker scans a freighter and he has Adaptive Nano Platings on that they want to gank, they have to bring enough catalysts to kill a HG-Slaved Freighter or risk leaving him in low hull or something. The thing is they usually bring more than enough anyway, so it's not a huge matter.
Jean deVallette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-06-26 12:00:31 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=351424

Basically - forget Charon/Fenrir.

Slave set, Coreli ANPs, booster/webbing chum Eos good for tank and range of those webs).

Its what my hauler and its 'escort' use.

Why not Charon/Fen? Cant get big benefit due to shields, due to lack of implants. Gets penalised by being forced to use bulkheads and still comes out lower.

And remember, gankers will gank. Just make them work for it.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#10 - 2014-06-26 19:21:37 UTC
The best tank for a freighter, as with any ship, is to fly it smartly. No AFK, no loading it with billions worth of cargo, avoid known gank-havens, etc.

It sounds like you already haul at keyboard, so you're most of the way to tanking your freighter already. Kudos.

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Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-06-27 17:00:35 UTC
If they see your link/web ship and scan your plating (kin/therm/therm is always best), they will assume Slaves.
Only people you'll manage to save your ship against will be bored/drunk goons during burn jita.

Your best bet with Slaves is to hide your link ship (wait in gate cloaks) until you get ganked. Fly reinforced bulkheads instead of platings. This way they won't assume Slaves and they'll make a 100 till 140 k EHP (depending on freighter flown) miscalculation.

Remember obvious tank is obvious, never be obvious.
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#12 - 2014-06-27 18:46:02 UTC
Links do not need to be obvious. Some random command ship just kind of traveling in same direction. Webs are harder to hide. Put some gallente ecm on web and links in spare slots.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#13 - 2014-06-27 23:11:46 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
You can also invest in some implants to increase your shields, armor, and hull hp. And the Slave Implant set can increase your raw armor hp by 20 to 50% depending on what grade you get.

now that i think about it, a full grade snake set and some adaptive plating seems like a pretty funny way to troll suicide gankers.




The only person that will be trolled is you when you wake up in your clone.
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#14 - 2014-06-27 23:12:48 UTC
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
If they see your link/web ship and scan your plating (kin/therm/therm is always best), they will assume Slaves.
Only people you'll manage to save your ship against will be bored/drunk goons during burn jita.

Your best bet with Slaves is to hide your link ship (wait in gate cloaks) until you get ganked. Fly reinforced bulkheads instead of platings. This way they won't assume Slaves and they'll make a 100 till 140 k EHP (depending on freighter flown) miscalculation.

Remember obvious tank is obvious, never be obvious.




Freighter continues being bumped


Second wave of catalysts warp in

You lose an even bigger pinata. Congratulations.
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-06-28 09:19:26 UTC
Loraine Gess wrote:

Freighter continues being bumped


Second wave of catalysts warp in

You lose an even bigger pinata. Congratulations.

As I've said elsewhere, slaves are a bad implant for freighters and IMHO won't save you. But if you're going to do, fly a standard hull-tank freighter and hide your links.
Gallinari
PJ Ind.
#16 - 2014-09-18 21:34:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Gallinari
The best way to gank proof your ship is to not get caught. When you're caught, and bumped by multiple Machariels, its only a matter of time before you're dead, regardless of tank. I watch CODE all the time send in cats, fail, continue bumping, send in another wave, and repeat until dead. Go with 3 inertia stabs, agility implants and a webber, instant warps without even having time to lock on is the way to go IMO. Also, be smart, scout your route and if ANYTHING is suspect, dock up and wait it out. That to me is the most gank proof freighter.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-09-19 14:06:30 UTC
If you know where the gankers are then the best defence is not going there; get a JF or go around.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#18 - 2014-09-19 16:21:26 UTC
If they want you, they are going to scan you, do some easy math and then pop you.

Best bet is to keep what will probably drop in your wreck less than it is worth to pop you.

Most ganks are for profit, so if they can't meet the margin on your wreck, then they won't pop you.

As an example - a lot of mission boats get popped. The number of t2 fit ravens that get ganked is pretty low compared to the officer / X-type fit pimp mobiles.
Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-09-19 18:17:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Steppa Musana
Most gank proof freighter is any freighter escorted by an alt in a web range bonused ship.

If not, Providence with Kinetic/Thermic/Adaptive A-Type Plating and high-grade slave set.
Escorted by 2+ Nestors, max tanked, all reps in highs (you only need cap for 21 seconds).

Really though.... web alt.


Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
You are about to be told that nothing is gank-proof.

Impel can be gank proof as a fit. 1,000,000 EHP never has and never will be ganked in high-sec. I say as a fit because you can you still lose connection at the absolute worst time / suck at basic awareness and get shot without hardeners active.

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