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Move Lvl 5 Missions out of Low sec.

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Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#61 - 2014-06-23 23:25:56 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tennej wrote:
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. Automatic disqualifier.


Well, it's become fairly apparent that you aren't actually interested in discussing this with anyone unless said person agrees with you, so I think I shall report you for your troll thread and see how that turns out.


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Quit posting....troll


You first.


I don't troll other's posts there smartass...... you however....seem to be pro....

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#62 - 2014-06-23 23:26:44 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Mag's wrote:
No

*Snip* Please refrain from distorting the forum lay-out. ISD Ezwal.


Cute.... and so much added to the discussion.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#63 - 2014-06-23 23:28:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Tennej
Mods please go ahead and lock this thread up.....the boohoo don't buff hisec crowd is here to save the day.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Xander Kross
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2014-06-24 00:48:47 UTC
Wow, so buffing lowsec and nullsec is ok but adding gameplay to hisec is not possible?

whats the problem, none of the ppl complaining about it will ever run a lvl 5 anyways, so it doesnt affect them, stay in low or null if it is so good for you and leave the ppl in hisec to do whatever we want too. its a game and we need more gameplay and pve features to actually enjoy the damned thing.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#65 - 2014-06-24 01:05:41 UTC
Xander Kross wrote:


whats the problem, none of the ppl complaining about it will ever run a lvl 5 anyways, so it doesnt affect them,


Devaluing LP, which is what L5s in highsec were doing before CCP moved them to lowsec, effects everyone.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Xander Kross
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#66 - 2014-06-24 01:15:24 UTC
devaluing LP, lol, who cares about LP, more lp = more ships in the market = more stuff for some ppl to blow up. The amount of lp from incursions is not devaluing anything same with the FW. that is a non issue. Next. with adding LVL5 missions to Highsec (like they are now, no changes to the mission) CCP could also make available all ships in the gae to all capsuleers with the skills to fly them. I'm talking about the Raven State Issue, Megathron Federation, Apocalypse Imperial and Tempest Tribal. They should be awarded to all capsuleers when they complete 10.0 standing / reputation with a faction on a per-faction basis.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#67 - 2014-06-24 01:28:53 UTC
Tennej wrote:
the boohoo don't buff hisec crowd is here to save the day.
I've yet to see you provide a reason, why high sec even needs a buff.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#68 - 2014-06-24 01:34:14 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Tennej wrote:
the boohoo don't buff hisec crowd is here to save the day.
I've yet to see you provide a reason, why high sec even needs a buff.



I dont remember saying it needed one.....

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#69 - 2014-06-24 01:35:09 UTC
Xander Kross wrote:
devaluing LP, lol, who cares about LP, more lp = more ships in the market = more stuff for some ppl to blow up. The amount of lp from incursions is not devaluing anything same with the FW. that is a non issue.


Crashing the LP market for the sake of assuaging your boredom with having chosen the endlessly grind PvE is simply unacceptable.

You're just showing your ignorance of the market at this point. Inflation is not a good thing, bro.

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Next. with adding LVL5 missions to Highsec (like they are now, no changes to the mission) CCP could also make available all ships in the gae to all capsuleers with the skills to fly them. I'm talking about the Raven State Issue, Megathron Federation, Apocalypse Imperial and Tempest Tribal. They should be awarded to all capsuleers when they complete 10.0 standing / reputation with a faction on a per-faction basis.


Lolno. You don't get to completely devalue other people's hard won trophies just because you want a carrot at the end of the hamster wheel.

Grinding missions endlessly doesn't make you special.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#70 - 2014-06-24 01:48:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Tennej wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Tennej wrote:
the boohoo don't buff hisec crowd is here to save the day.
I've yet to see you provide a reason, why high sec even needs a buff.



I dont remember saying it needed one.....
Well as it doesn't need a buff, we can forget this idea. Big smile

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Grinding missions endlessly doesn't make you special.
Well.......

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Tarsas Phage
Sniggerdly
#71 - 2014-06-24 07:37:16 UTC
Xander Kross wrote:
devaluing LP, lol, who cares about LP, more lp = more ships in the market = more stuff for some ppl to blow up. The amount of lp from incursions is not devaluing anything same with the FW. that is a non issue. Next. with adding LVL5 missions to Highsec (like they are now, no changes to the mission) CCP could also make available all ships in the gae to all capsuleers with the skills to fly them. I'm talking about the Raven State Issue, Megathron Federation, Apocalypse Imperial and Tempest Tribal. They should be awarded to all capsuleers when they complete 10.0 standing / reputation with a faction on a per-faction basis.


You want rare shines that will no longer be rare if you had your way.

Kind of self-defeating isn't it.
Tarsas Phage
Sniggerdly
#72 - 2014-06-24 07:41:19 UTC
Xander Kross wrote:
Wow, so buffing lowsec and nullsec is ok but adding gameplay to hisec is not possible?

whats the problem, none of the ppl complaining about it will ever run a lvl 5 anyways, so it doesnt affect them, stay in low or null if it is so good for you and leave the ppl in hisec to do whatever we want too. its a game and we need more gameplay and pve features to actually enjoy the damned thing.


If you want to do L5s, go to where the L5s are. How is this a hard concept to understand?

Highsec has had an incredible amount of buffs over the past 2 years, so either you're not paying attention or you're just selectively omitting what those buffs were from memory. This whole "I want the content to come to me, I don't wanna to go the content" crap wreaks of spoiled brat.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#73 - 2014-06-24 12:30:07 UTC
Xander Kross wrote:
Wow, so buffing lowsec and nullsec is ok but adding gameplay to hisec is not possible


Gameplay that was in the past seriously broken. No, you can't have that lol.

High Sec has all it needs. if you want 'not-high sec' style isk for next to no risk and not much effort from you , join an incursion channel (The FC and his 'crew' like the LC and droppers and anchors are working, the bulk of the fleet is shooting at tags or repping people who broadcast). If you want to do the same kind of thing solo, run Thukker or SOE missions, or one of the mining/industrial implant spewing mission corps.

High Sec gets magical space police, the COST of that protection (at least theoretically) is less profitable pve activities. The main reason why some of us don't hold high sec or it's residents in high regard is because (as i've said in this thread) many appear to want access to the good stuff without paying the (risk) dues that the rest of pay for that access.

I wanted to do lvl 5 missions, so after CCP fixed the bug that allowed them in high sec, I went to low sec to do them. I wanted to run anomalies that weren't crap and find complexes that dropped good loot and run pirate missions, so i went to low and null. When i wanted to shoot sleepers I went to wormhole space.

Why should the risks I and thousands of others have taken be invalidated and thrown away because some people (who are to scared of losing an imaginary space ship) don't want to leave protected space? You high sec people are litterally asking CCP to devalue our game experience, which is why you see the kind of resistance that pops up every time someone begs for more high sec 'content'.

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whats the problem, none of the ppl complaining about it will ever run a lvl 5 anyways, so it doesn't affect them, stay in low or null if it is so good for you and leave the ppl in hisec to do whatever we want too. its a game and we need more gameplay and pve features to actually enjoy the damned thing.


Exactly the point I made above. If you want more, go and get more, don't ask CCP to bring you more.

EVE is one game, interconnected, everything in it affects everyone , no matter if you use it or not. No on is stopping hi sec people from doing anything, we're saying they should deal with reality, realize this is a video game, and go and get the good pve outside of high sec if that's what they want to do.

No, you can't have your cake and eat it to.


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Luscius Uta
#74 - 2014-06-24 12:50:33 UTC
I say move half of the existing Lvl4 agents to lowsec, since Lvl5 systems are always controlled by large pirate entities, there's too many highsec lvl4 agents and too few lowsec lvl4 agents.
Yes highsec needs to be nerfed, since there's too many people living in it (have you ever seen a highsec system with no one in local?) thinking that EVE is about levelling up their Ravens and there's not enough incentive for people to move out of highsec.

If you compare EVE with theme park then highsec players should be compared to people standing in a queue for tickets.

Workarounds are not bugfixes.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#75 - 2014-06-25 22:39:24 UTC
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