Player Features and Ideas Discussion

u want to have a corp that is more than just a social thing but cant be decced. i'm saying no.

if u want to be able to make a social based half-corp that works like NPC corps in every way except for its name and members, then ok, i dnt see a problem with that. U can do that already with whats in the game really.

If ur pushing for eve to have an easy mode that makes u immune to decs and is conveniently balanced by things u dnt feel u need (like POS's) then: Hell no!

Look at it this way.

It's like having a constellation with infinite resources to mine, but the minerals are almost worthless.

Or an 'easy PVP' constellation, where only low SP toons are allowed, only 1v1s with same ships types are possible, but no killmails are generated.

In other words, you would have a PVE-like mechanic (easy and safe progression, with 'light' consequences) instead of the hardcore competitive nature of a true sandbox game.

Sandbox means if you're new, and/or small, the game is harder for you.

Why? Because in this way, being experienced and/or a forming a large organized group, actually acquires real value.

To me, and many others, that's the beauty of the game and it shouldn't be changed.

In eve, ur deliberately exposed to other players. NPC corps aren't really intended to be a place for players to settle, they were homes for players in limbo or who didnt have a corp to go into yet. CCP would rather u didnt stay in NPC corps. They'd rather u get together with other players, get out there and interact with both friends and enemies. Your idea encourages players to get together, but only interact with themselves. They get benefits, but the primary way for outsiders to interact with them is blocked.

I truly dislike the idea of *corporations lite*, following:

- If you want to be immune to wardecs, you join an npc-corp (not the school ones like CAS) - which comes at the price of absolute autism in your obligatory *corp chat* and 11% tax.
- You'd get bookmarks for your corp, standings for your corp etc., so you retain the advantages above and also gain these <.<
- Currently the wardec system is a bribe for CONCORD to look the other way.

So why would you get together and register under a corpname if you don't want to do anything that defines a corp, the power to place and seize assets for yourselves only comes at the price of being vulnerable, but that's why you found a corporation.

So instead of asking for *corp lite*, why not just do it on your own!

- Create a chatroom with a MOTD to organize things
- Set personal standings for faster fleets
- Contract bookmarks if you need them
- post calender events in before-mentioned chat channel

There really is no reason for a *corp lite* to exist if it does not do anything a corp does, and doesn't offer any functionality beyond what you can (most easily) do already.

With proper (ingame) organization, there already are little limits to what you can do. And just by creating a chatchannel for certain people, you already have 75% of what defines sort of corp-feeling. Seems like you don't want the rest anyways, so just go with this.

The things it adds that a chat-room and mailing list don't offer.

Are ability to build up shared assets, have a corp tax, corp contracts, corp hangers.

Sure if you want to trust some random player in charge of a chat channel with your efforts, without seeing access to corp contracts or having a hanger access your welcome to do that. But if you think that. please send 100 mil isk to Kethry and I'll show you a good highsec POCO location or something.

Corp-lite would put some in game mechanics in place to help a group form. Allow new players a breathing space to get established while learning some of the basics of running a corp. Also if run well it helps take some of the trust problems out of the equation so that members aren't just gifting assets to someone running a chat channel if trying to do something a little bigger in EVE.

I try to address the problems of removing War-decs as method of interaction by adding competitive disadvantages to the corp lite.

If this idea works like I propose, you would not be able to get as much from mining, mission running, trading, manufacturing, and you would not have access to POCO's POSes and other in space corp assets. So you don't need to War-dec a corp to remove there stuff from space, or disrupt there competitive game play, just by being in a Corp-Lite they would be at a disadvantage already.

If you just have a grudge or like grief play, you are still free to bump them, gank them, suicide gank them, put bounties on them etc.

I do not think that current in game tools support new players and new groups get established. I think War-decs are the mechanic that gets over-used and drives people out of EVE who could grow into the game if given a chance.

I don't think most players will stay in a Corp-Lite long term. I think how boring most of EVE's PVE is and the disadvantages I've listed will see to that. This just gives them a place to establish a group, build up a nest egg, before taking the plunge into deeper waters.

You mean chat channels and mailing lists?

This area of idea gets brought up way too often to have an original idea or post for.

See Page 22 Section 7-7.2

My general thoughts on Carebears trying to create game mechanics to protect them from the mean evil gankers.
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This. +1

Anyone who flys through highsec will see 'gatecamps' of groups such as Marmite who just pay their tax and kill bears for a week or two.

Add to that an identifiable corp affiliation, however loose, even if effectively name only, and simple boolean access control/setup that membership would create.