EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hello all,

I am a new player on a trail account... I am giving this game a hard look before I subscribe. I am enjoying it so far, very in depth and complex.

My issue is with other people... I have read NOT to trust anyone... but if I do not trust anyone, how can I meet people to do stuff with.

I was in the Corp channel and asking how to make friends, but pretty much got flamed... someone offered to run missions with me promising 5 mil a mission... im use to getting 100k a mission... i was hesitant, but said ok.... because I "Want" to trust people. I looked at the persons profile and it said they were wanted.. and it said a bunch of stuff about being kicked from corps for team killing... So i decided to log out.

Anyway.. TLDR... I WANT to play this game and meet nice people, but if Everyone is out to kill each other and steal thier goods, what is a new player to do?

I understand this is a hard core pvp game and there is no room for carebears... but there must be some nice people here.... somewhere... ???

thanks,
Rem

Thanks L'ouris.... I guess I need to put the pacifier down and jump in the deep end.


Thanks for taking time to respond.

V/r,
Rem

Okay, first to clarify 1 thing:

The wanted sign means that this person has a bounty, if you look around EVE, everybody, their dogs and moms are all wanted. This is because in the current situation the bounty system is kind of useless.


Now onto the "harder" part regarding trust:

True, in EVE you should never fully trust anybody. This doesn't mean you should not be talking with people or completely avoid contact.

But it does mean that you should use something people call common sense.
Say you are offered to join someone in his missions and you have 2 ships you can choose from.
Ship A is (for your terms) expensive and losing it will be a very major set back.
Ship B is kind of your cheap back up in case something happened, losing it doesn't mean too much to you.

Pick ship B and go out and just hope for the best. Worst thing that can happen is that you lose that "back up".

Same with loads of other things, common sense will most of the time safe you from errors.

* This sounds too good to be true -> It is too good to be true and thus walk away from it.
* This guy wants me to give him all my stuff so he can help me haul it -> He will likely just steal it, thank him and walk away.
* Let me put all stuff I own in my untanked hauler and move everything across the galaxy -> If you get killed (which is possible) you lost everything you owned and are left with what ever you can buy from what is in your wallet.
* Let me buy all the expensive mods on the world so everything I own is on 1 ship -> It gets killed and you can't do anything anymore.

All of the above, common sense will prevent you from making that mistake.


Also, there are plenty of public channels around in EVE where you can hang out and talk to people in. Even your own new player NPC corp will have great people in it, but also a lot of "stupid" people and just alt character of others that are messing with you, ignore them / block them / don't listen to them.

EVE has a lot of players, as with any big group, there will be people you like among them but also people you will dislike.

Also, the thought that everybody is out there to kill you and steal your stuff, though in the general view is correct isn't completely true. Plenty of people who play EVE "peacefully", issue with that is that those people don't make the news and thus won't get known around EVE (okay, Chribba is the exception).

But keep in mind: Keep your friends close but your enemies even close. And that EVE is rudeless, friends can turn on you, I generally try to stay friendly to people, but if I see a chance to take advantage and benefit from it in the end, I might take it.
Same with people who kill you, just because they killed you in game doesn't mean they are bad and terrible people. They just find their fun in killing you whereas your way of making fun is different, talk to them, if you stay polite and mature the chance is likely they will even help you to get better at the game.

EDIT:

Freaking ninja'd like F while typing that wall of text.

This.

Also, if questions arrive...This part of the forum is great (not that I'm biased or something).

Ask them, loads of regulars are posting here very often and you will not get 1 or 2 answers, but loads of them.

*waves to the other forum regulars

Thanks for the replies and advice.. it is very much appreciated.

I will continue to play and hope for the best.

Funny thing is... 90% of the people I have talked to were very helpful in the rookie channel.... I prob would not have kept playing if it was not for those people helping out when I was stuck.

Thanks,
Rem

This. A common practice is to have a small stash of stuff someplace safe for getting back on your feet.

My advice is to learn the game rules and mechanics. This will not come overnight and sometimes you will learn the game rules/mechanics the hard way... but being informed about what people can and cannot do in certain situations will go a long way towards establishing trust.

That guy who offered to take you on one of his missions? The game mechanics would not have allowed him to attack you even if you are in the same fleet. The exceptions to this are...
- if you are both in a system with security rating 0.4 or lower.
- you are both in the same player corporation (NPC corps you are safe in).

And the "Wanted" stamp on him was purely superficial.
In EVE, the "bad guy" is not always the dirty, grizzled person in the corner reeking of booze, glaring at people while making a pipe bomb.
Likewise, the person with the shining white armor, mounted atop the Pegasus horse with the Sword of Honor and Destiny, and adored by women everywhere is not always a "good guy."

That grizzled person could be someone cut down by the white knight during the white knight's zealous quest for "in-game moral purity" (yes, this is a thing in EVE)... and now the grizzled person is actively seeking revenge... via pipe bombs.

Hmz. Sword... pipe bomb.

Some famous words regarding bringing a knife to a gunfight come to mind.

You can trust me, I helped you

We are social creatures. To get anywhere of note in-game, and in RL, you HAVE to trust people. You'll get burned or betrayed eventually...just be prepared and be ready to recover then go forward when it happens.

You can trust people in Eve to a certain extent, but not when it comes to your stuff.

Assume the worst and plan accordingly, some of the time you get a pleasant surprise.