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Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#1 - 2014-06-22 21:10:10 UTC
Lvl 5 missions are in low sec instead of hi-sec or null sec Roll

AND

Some Security missions have a quite a few real mineable rocks while Mining missions do not have at least a couple real rocks for optional mining.....????? Roll That makes alot of sense.

I'll discount any reply talking about wrecking the economy or its CCP's game and they do what they want. Only In search of Valid reasoning as to why this is.

Thanks in advance.... troll away!!!

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#2 - 2014-06-22 21:26:03 UTC
Because lowsec is currently shittysec.

It needs to have something yeah?

EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#3 - 2014-06-22 21:33:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Fer'isam K'ahn
First, this is the suggestion forum, not the discussion or Q&A, please post correctly

Second ... I'll quote myself

[quote "if you would, put your idea in the topic so i dont have to be lazy and read through it please."]

Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Has nothing to do with laziness, but with keeping the forum in order, making it obvious that said topic exists and make it easier for the search function to find related topics. Sine you already failed on the last two yourself (just an observation to make the point, don't get mad) you should have no problems understanding that. Its also one of the forum rules in case you are wondering....


That said, read Arya Regnar , and if you were just thinking about continuing your solo mission career, those are not solo missions.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#4 - 2014-06-22 21:36:33 UTC
the latter, no idea.

But level 5's were moved to low sec because they gave too much reward for so little risk. Many ppl have been asking level 4's to be moved there as well for the same reason.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-06-22 21:41:19 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
the latter, no idea.

But level 5's were moved to low sec because they gave too much reward for so little risk. Many ppl have been asking level 4's to be moved there as well for the same reason.

I agree with you all the way up to the point incursions were introduced.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#6 - 2014-06-22 21:47:36 UTC
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
First, this is the suggestion forum, not the discussion or Q&A, please post correctly

Second ... I'll quote myself

[quote "if you would, put your idea in the topic so i dont have to be lazy and read through it please."]

Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Has nothing to do with laziness, but with keeping the forum in order, making it obvious that said topic exists and make it easier for the search function to find related topics. Sine you already failed on the last two yourself (just an observation to make the point, don't get mad) you should have no problems understanding that. Its also one of the forum rules in case you are wondering....


That said, read Arya Regnar , and if you were just thinking about continuing your solo mission career, those are not solo missions.



Sorry I disguised my suggestions too well for you there Mr. moderator..... oh wait nvm you arent one.


next.....

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#7 - 2014-06-22 21:48:51 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
the latter, no idea.

But level 5's were moved to low sec because they gave too much reward for so little risk. Many ppl have been asking level 4's to be moved there as well for the same reason.

I agree with you all the way up to the point incursions were introduced.



What this guy said....... Limit or don't limit the sandbox..... choose one.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#8 - 2014-06-22 21:49:37 UTC
Arya Regnar wrote:
Because lowsec is currently shittysec.

It needs to have something yeah?



Best response so far.......

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#9 - 2014-06-22 21:52:19 UTC
Mining missions once had normal asteroids in them, too. But I guess they were deemed too exploitive and got removed. There was no reason to go into the belts if you could spawn infinite asteroids in a relatively secure location independent of security level.

Quite a few asteroids were removed from missions actually. For example that huge Omber rock in Downing the Slavers. Got myself a million Isogen out of it, because it re-spawned every downtime for a week until the mission expires. A lifetime supply. Still nibbling from it.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#10 - 2014-06-22 21:54:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaerakh
Tennej wrote:
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
First, this is the suggestion forum, not the discussion or Q&A, please post correctly

Second ... I'll quote myself

[quote "if you would, put your idea in the topic so i dont have to be lazy and read through it please."]

Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Has nothing to do with laziness, but with keeping the forum in order, making it obvious that said topic exists and make it easier for the search function to find related topics. Sine you already failed on the last two yourself (just an observation to make the point, don't get mad) you should have no problems understanding that. Its also one of the forum rules in case you are wondering....


That said, read Arya Regnar , and if you were just thinking about continuing your solo mission career, those are not solo missions.



Sorry I disguised my suggestions too well for you there Mr. moderator..... oh wait nvm you arent one.


next.....

He never said he was one, but you are violating 2 rules. Rule 3 of this board(F&I) and rule 16 of the forums rules. The accessibility of L5s has been discussed before in multiple threads. One of these is easily rectified by you the OP. The other not so much since you can't take a post back.

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Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#11 - 2014-06-22 21:56:57 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Mining missions once had normal asteroids in them, too. But I guess they were deemed too exploitive and got removed. There was no reason to go into the belts if you could spawn infinite asteroids in a relatively secure location independent of security level.

Quite a few asteroids were removed from missions actually. For example that huge Omber rock in Downing the Slavers. Got myself a million Isogen out of it, because it re-spawned every downtime for a week until the mission expires. A lifetime supply. Still nibbling from it.



Its less exploitive to mine security missions than a few rocks out of mining missions? Please explain?

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#12 - 2014-06-22 21:59:05 UTC
Kaerakh wrote:
Tennej wrote:
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
First, this is the suggestion forum, not the discussion or Q&A, please post correctly

Second ... I'll quote myself

[quote "if you would, put your idea in the topic so i dont have to be lazy and read through it please."]

Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Has nothing to do with laziness, but with keeping the forum in order, making it obvious that said topic exists and make it easier for the search function to find related topics. Sine you already failed on the last two yourself (just an observation to make the point, don't get mad) you should have no problems understanding that. Its also one of the forum rules in case you are wondering....


That said, read Arya Regnar , and if you were just thinking about continuing your solo mission career, those are not solo missions.



Sorry I disguised my suggestions too well for you there Mr. moderator..... oh wait nvm you arent one.


next.....

He never said he was one, but you are violating 2 rules. Rule 3 of this board and rule 16 of the forums rules. The accessibility of L5s has been discussed before in multiple threads. One of these is easily rectified by you the OP. The other not so much since you can't take a post back.


If it gets locked by an actual moderator then so be it. I was only after feedback on the actual suggestions which I am getting.

Some folks dont actually play by the rules......btw

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#13 - 2014-06-22 22:01:57 UTC
Tennej wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Mining missions once had normal asteroids in them, too. But I guess they were deemed too exploitive and got removed. There was no reason to go into the belts if you could spawn infinite asteroids in a relatively secure location independent of security level.

Quite a few asteroids were removed from missions actually. For example that huge Omber rock in Downing the Slavers. Got myself a million Isogen out of it, because it re-spawned every downtime for a week until the mission expires. A lifetime supply. Still nibbling from it.

Its less exploitive to mine security missions than a few rocks out of mining missions? Please explain?

They never stated their reasons. I guess data indicated much more ore was mined from mining missions than security missions and someone made a decision somewhere. It's been ages ago that happened. You'd need a dev to come and make a statement because no one else knows that I am aware of.

They never even bothered to change the locations to accommodate for the sudden lack of rocks either. And they look the part, like a jaw where all teeth are pulled: Full of holes where you expect something. Sad state of affairs.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Inshallah Eichman
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-06-22 22:03:06 UTC


Let the moderators handle moderation, whiners. Just stick to the topic.

Level 5 missions in High sec would be strange and I think you know why. Not being in Nul-sec I really cannot say. Maybe because the missions are given by people with no authority in Nul-sec. Probably it's a tactic to bring some of this huge area of gameplay into smaller areas since most of the entire game is just empty space.

Asteroids not being in mining missions... yes this is a stupid thing. But then again, mining missions ARE a stupid thing so I am not sure where to go with that.
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#15 - 2014-06-22 22:03:39 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Tennej wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Mining missions once had normal asteroids in them, too. But I guess they were deemed too exploitive and got removed. There was no reason to go into the belts if you could spawn infinite asteroids in a relatively secure location independent of security level.

Quite a few asteroids were removed from missions actually. For example that huge Omber rock in Downing the Slavers. Got myself a million Isogen out of it, because it re-spawned every downtime for a week until the mission expires. A lifetime supply. Still nibbling from it.

Its less exploitive to mine security missions than a few rocks out of mining missions? Please explain?

They never stated their reasons. I guess data indicated much more ore was mined from mining missions than security missions and someone made a decision somewhere. It's been ages ago that happened. You'd need a dev to come and make a statement because no one else knows that I am aware of.

They never even bothered to change the locations to accommodate for the sudden lack of rocks either. And they look the part, like a jaw where all teeth are pulled: Full of holes where you expect something. Sad state of affairs.



Tyvm for your insight..... makes me wonder if this is something they may relook in the future.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#16 - 2014-06-22 22:05:16 UTC
Inshallah Eichman wrote:


Let the moderators handle moderation, whiners. Just stick to the topic.

Level 5 missions in High sec would be strange and I think you know why. Not being in Nul-sec I really cannot say. Maybe because the missions are given by people with no authority in Nul-sec. Probably it's a tactic to bring some of this huge area of gameplay into smaller areas since most of the entire game is just empty space.

Asteroids not being in mining missions... yes this is a stupid thing. But then again, mining missions ARE a stupid thing so I am not sure where to go with that.


Tyvm for your insight.... perhaps mining missions will just go away altogether.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#17 - 2014-06-22 22:21:14 UTC
Tennej wrote:



What this guy said....... Limit or don't limit the sandbox..... choose one.


wat?

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#18 - 2014-06-22 22:39:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tennej
So lvl 5 missions too much reward for Hisec..... again... good with that until incursions. Maybe lower the reward and move to Hisec or change the faction to pirate only and move to null.

Suggestion not Question.


Nobody really knows about Mining mishs and why there are at least a few rocks for optional mining..... so... How about putting optional rocks to mine in mining missions.

Suggestion not Question.



Kinda done with this thread since everybody is going all moderator and getting panties all bunched up. Feelings are getting hurt an all that.


Thanks for all the input!!!!


Ten

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#19 - 2014-06-22 22:56:25 UTC
Well, pm'ed

And since you are making suggestions now, good, I can answer to that, even if it might be too late.

To give pirate factions level 5 missions might be an option, I just don't know how much they would be run if accessible. I thought there might be some already, but I just checked, and no, there aren't. I bet 0.0 guys do other things then run complex missions in their own space. And do not forget, I am not even sure if many 0.0 systems actually have pirate presence (except for the known regions).

And I kind of do not understand the 'until Incursions', if you mean until you can run Incursions, then Incursion come before L5s due to the positioning.

And optional asteroids are the belts, though sometimes I wish there were a few private ones to activate at least, they should be able to be scanned down. I would support asteroid signatures as well as random asteroids in mining missions and better placement in non-mining missions.

Better now ?
Inshallah Eichman
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-06-22 22:57:43 UTC
The Incursion comments are regarding the implementation of them and the risk/reward argument commonly made.
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