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MMJD - Noctis addition

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Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#1 - 2014-06-22 12:56:56 UTC
Hello CCP,

Just wondering if we could add the noctis to the list of ships that can use the MMJD. Would make for some fun, jumping around on salvage ships, at least in some combat rooms (Mostly for fleets, so your salvage guy can keep up with the rest of the crew)

plus - reason why assault BCs where not included in the ability to use MMJD?

Thanks

"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1

#NPCLivesMatter #Freetheboobs

Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#2 - 2014-06-22 13:07:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Fer'isam K'ahn
Amarisen Gream wrote:
Hello CCP,

Just wondering if we could add the noctis to the list of ships that can use the MMJD. Would make for some fun, jumping around on salvage ships, at least in some combat rooms (Mostly for fleets, so your salvage guy can keep up with the rest of the crew)

plus - reason why assault BCs where not included in the ability to use MMJD?

Thanks

Hy, the Noctis actually is a battleship size hull, though it uses medium size modules, I guess that makes it a special case, but you can already fit medium MWDs to travel around, but a MJD seems very unnecessary for what the Noctis actually does. This also in the relation to how fast it does its thing.
I never have problems while doing salvage to actually fly 20-30km during that time, even without a prop mod. And to add a MMJD just for the LOLs, use the mobile jump unit.Blink

And there are no assault battle cruisers. Lol
Spacemover
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-06-22 13:46:41 UTC
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:

I never have problems while doing salvage to actually fly 20-30km during that time, even without a prop mod. And to add a MMJD just for the LOLs, use the mobile jump unit.Blink

And there are no assault battle cruisers. Lol


you know no one like smartypants, do you?

attack battlecruisers were included in mmjd at first but it would have been a bit op so they were excluded after about 70 pages of ragecomments on the threadnaught. (good thing that listening to community stuff :) )

i have to say although using a noctis just got way less worthwile it would give that ship a nice thing to mmjd (or even mjd). for fittings sake it should get a bonus to fitting so you can actually use tractorbeams and salvagers if fitting one of these.

after all the noctis brings all bad things of a battleshiphull without it´s normal benefits:

-brick in space (without bricktank)
-slow as hell.
-no great deal in tanking
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#4 - 2014-06-22 14:48:38 UTC
Spacemover wrote:
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:

I never have problems while doing salvage to actually fly 20-30km during that time, even without a prop mod. And to add a MMJD just for the LOLs, use the mobile jump unit.Blink

And there are no assault battle cruisers. Lol


you know no one like smartypants, do you?

attack battlecruisers were included in mmjd at first but it would have been a bit op so they were excluded after about 70 pages of ragecomments on the threadnaught. (good thing that listening to community stuff :) )

i have to say although using a noctis just got way less worthwile it would give that ship a nice thing to mmjd (or even mjd). for fittings sake it should get a bonus to fitting so you can actually use tractorbeams and salvagers if fitting one of these.

after all the noctis brings all bad things of a battleshiphull without it´s normal benefits:

-brick in space (without bricktank)
-slow as hell.
-no great deal in tanking


Thanks for the information on the A-BCs. I still have problems searching through CCPs webpages for information.
-- Was looking forward to a very nice Talos fit for massive sniping Cry

I'd say its more like a 50000 ton bag of flower, with a paper thin wrapper. As soon as you get a whole or tear in the wrapper you start leaking all over the place.

"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1

#NPCLivesMatter #Freetheboobs

Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#5 - 2014-06-22 15:21:38 UTC
Spacemover wrote:
you know no one like smartypants, do you?

attack battlecruisers ...


AH, sorry, my bad, wasn't trying to be funny or anything, was just confused with the term, since I have been flying BC since my 2nfd month, but the term assault or attack never came up anywhere, so I thought he meant the HACs.
No skill or anything mentions attack battles cruisers ingame, not even ISIS or the own BC info lore. I even went to check. But I found the term now in the web archives°° - Never came across it, but as I always say, not knowing doesn't protect one from harm or ridicule - so I guess I have to wear that shoe now.

And talking about the Noctis and tank, have you ever noticed its shield recharge rate ? I got with full salvage over 130hp/ sec regen (w/o resists) and survived all gank attempts so far and can as well tank a few BS rats while accompanying mission runners.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#6 - 2014-06-22 15:28:31 UTC
+1 to that.

Sucks to have wrecks stuck between 95km tractor range and 150km warp range.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#7 - 2014-06-22 15:42:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Fer'isam K'ahn
Lloyd Roses wrote:
+1 to that.

Sucks to have wrecks stuck between 95km tractor range and 150km warp range.

Aehm, as a tip, carry an MTU with you, even with the meta1 you should not need to travel more then 25 km in the worst case.
And if you have difficulties handling it, actively tractor everything from max range first, this will get the MTU to tractor the out of ranges ones quickest.

Nothing against your +1, but usually for most suggested changes of the system, there is already an active gameplay aspect that would deal with it. Just 'change the game for me', so I have more comfort and less play isn't really what this should be about .. also of course not making things unnecessarily difficult ,)

Personally I also would not want to fit an MMJD or any propulsion mod to my Nocits, it's already weak on the mid slot and PG side - and I would just fit more tank ,8).

Also, I am really not sure If Tornadoes and the like can't use MMJDs since the lore in the game is quite fishy about it. Lets check EFT... If they can't, then I am not sure why and would ask the same question.
Inshallah Eichman
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-06-22 22:17:46 UTC
You can check your assets list or arrange your personal hangar by detail and it will separate all the BCs, among some other obscure item sorts.

A MJD on a Noctis would be fun I guess. I don't think it's really necessary, but it would still be fun. The tactical usage of MJD is likely going to be re-evaluated soon anyway, if all the complaints on these boards are any indication.

Also if you're suggesting a MTU, and everyone loves that 125km range, then you have probably never used a Noctis. The MTU is slower than molasses. The Noctis rocks the house down cleaning up The Blockade for instance.