EVE New Citizens Q&A

I'm a noobie industrialst/trader who just made it big in the market. I wanted to invest some of my profits in a pvp character for a few billion isk that would save me a year of training skills on a self-made alt. My friends disagree on whether this is a good idea. One of them says it's a good investment that will save me frustration. The other one says I will be barred from joining good pvp corps because the character is a bazaar toon.

Any opinion on this NCQ&A? I'd love to save myself some time, but on the same token, I would hate to be discriminated against because I took a short-cut. Any comments are welcome. Thanks in advance.

If you buy a character, just be up front with the recruiter, a link to the buy thread in the bazaar and your API should clear up any trouble.

As mentioned however, you may find it just as easy to skill up a character and learn PVP one ship loss at a time funded by your market success.

I suppose you can save a lot of headache just buying a character with max fitting skills then customizing it however you want, as long as you don't confuse skillpoints with PVP skill.

Thanks for the feedback. I definitely am not under the illustion that I can just roll on with a new character and pwnzone with an expensive ship. I actually am seeking a character with only a few million sp, core training done, so I can get to losing t1 frigates and destroyers with t2 fits more quickly.

You're right, sticking to cheap meta1-2 stuff is probably better investing.

I doubt I can buy a character like you're describing for 5bil, which is the budget I have. lol

5 bil will buy you an ARMADA of fully-fitted frigs, dessies, and cruisers to explode and learn from. You should even have a couple bil left over to tip me when your finished.

How much sp to join those classes or corps?

Agony PvP classes - very very low SP friendly. Their BASIC class basically uses T1 frigates and with T1 modules, so within a week or 2 you can technically use their recommended fits.

RvB Ganked / Redemption Road roams - public roams, you have to do very very terrible things to not be allowed to join. Even if you can just a very very basic frigate, they will take you. For them it's not about being top dog, it's about having fun with a group of people. So as long as you can fly with them (e.g. have a ship) you are good to go.

Then there is actually joining RvB. RvB has 3 "pre-requirements":
1. You play EVE
2. You finished the character creation.
3. You want to PvP.


E1:

For more information about Agony Unleashed's Classes see:

Their wiki:
http://www.agony-unleashed.com/wiki/index.php?title=PVP_Classes

Their website/forum:
http://www.agony-unleashed.com/

And join their public channel: Agony Public

Quoting for truth.

Someone who is very good at what they do, don't need massive adverts to get new players. People will know where to find them.

Also, this means that at times they are a tad bit "harder" to get into. But getting to know them and showing the right attitude will be a great way to achieve meeting the "minimum recruitment" requirements.

If a proper group has the choice of:

A. A high SP character, bought and flown by a new player that is ignorant, doesn't want to learn, thinks that his SP means he is good and in general is an *******.

B. A low SP new player but with a good mindset, willing to learn from his mistakes, asks questions after the fight about how he can improve himself and in general a very nice person to hang around with.

They will go for option B, because that person is not only nicer to fly with, but also generally much easier to get to work with the group.


In my past while I was a recruiter for several corps, what I found out is that having a new player with less SP vs a player with massive SP and loads of actual experience both with the same attitude the low SP ones are easier to work with.
They aren't biased, they don't have the "veteran virus" (in that they always know better how to do something) and in general are more open to ideas and suggestions (basically, they are easier to mold into the pilot the group needs so that it benefits both the new player and the group in general).

OP, do not take their advice. It doesn't make any sense.

If you want to fly T1 frigates and destroyers that is advisable. Doing so with a low-SP character will only make your experience worse though as the ships will be even more flimsy than usual. Flying those kinds of ships with a well-trained character will allow you to properly take advantage of them.

You will be PVPing players that have tens of millions of SP; you'll want to match that as best you can.

If you've made it big in the market and you have the ISK to spare, I don't see the problem with buying a well trained character. Just make sure to fly cheap T1 ships until you're good at PVP.

There are only a few reasons to ever make a fresh character in this game when you have ISK to spare for one. Off the top of my head:
1) If you want your own personal name
2) If no characters on the market are acceptable to you
3) Certain espionage scenarios where you don't want the char to be known as a bazaar purchase