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Anti-gank DST fits (high-sec)
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Dally Lama
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-06-20 07:50:58 UTC
In searching the forums, Google and Battleclinic I have found a profound lack of proper anti-gank fits for the new DST class vessels.

Please post any fits in here that are extremely difficult to gank in high-sec.

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Dally Lama
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-06-20 07:51:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Dally Lama
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#3 - 2014-06-20 08:09:56 UTC
So the whole point of this fit is to autopilot through highsec? but you have active hardeners so you have to be at the keyboard to turn on all your active hardeners after every jump. If you're at the screen, you might as well run a Prorator with full expanded cargohold at get 13k+m3 cargo rather than 3km3 cargo you get from this while being safer AND faster. So yeah, is this completely pointless or am I missing the point entirely?
Dally Lama
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-06-20 08:12:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Dally Lama
You get a 50,000-62,500k m3 fleet hangar with the DST. That fit is not meant to be autopiloted.

If someone has an anti-gank autopiloting fit that would be quite nice.
I haven't been able to throw anything together myself that would make it through, say, Aufay though, where I've seen freighters with 3 x Reinforced Bulkheads taken down.

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Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#5 - 2014-06-20 08:43:35 UTC
Dally Lama wrote:
ANY fit is not meant to be autopiloted.


Fixed that for you.

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."
Celsus Balog
DAB
Solyaris Chtonium
#6 - 2014-06-20 08:56:49 UTC
Kaaeliaa wrote:
Dally Lama wrote:
ANY fit is not meant to be autopiloted.


Fixed that for you.

Even freighter fitz?
Keilateau Shakor
Shakor Freight and Mining Service
#7 - 2014-06-20 09:37:21 UTC
Dally Lama wrote:
Please post any fits in here that are extremely difficult to gank in high-sec.


Sorry, there is no such thing. People are prepared to field 200+ GankNados only to get you, personally. Eve Online.
Dally Lama
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-06-20 09:48:30 UTC
Keilateau Shakor wrote:
Dally Lama wrote:
Please post any fits in here that are extremely difficult to gank in high-sec.


Sorry, there is no such thing. People are prepared to field 200+ GankNados only to get you, personally. Eve Online.

Having to field 200+ gank Nados to kill a single hauler would be the definition of extremely difficult.

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Icylce
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-06-20 10:31:54 UTC
Dally Lama wrote:
[Impel, EHP High-Sec Final]

Improved 'Guise' Cloaking Device II

Small Capacitor Booster II (Navy Cap Booster 400)
Corelum B-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive

800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Core X-Type Armor EM Hardener
2x Core B-Type Armor Thermic Hardener
Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Core C-Type Armor Explosive Hardener
Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

2x Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

1000x Nanite Repair Paste
20x Navy Cap Booster 400

- And it can cloak/MWD trick (overheat the MWD first).


If u want to do cloak+mwd I'd reccomend using 2 or 3 inertia stabs dmg control and rezist in lows. Also I would refrain from using DS mwd and rezist. It makes this ship a ganktarget even if u dont haul valuable cargo. Keep it cheap and reasonable and concentrate on agility and good cloak if u want to "cloakwarp".
Dally Lama
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-06-20 10:38:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Dally Lama
I think you guys are missing the point of these kinds of DST fits. P

Without using such pricey modules you cannot hit 1,000,000 EHP, which makes you nearly ungankable in high-sec. Sure, you can technically be ganked, but the logistics in play make it nearly impossible. Simpy put, no one has that much DPS ready.

If your modules cost 50b it would still be "safe" because they'd still need more DPS than they have to kill you. Not even the largest fleets during Burn Jita had enough DPS to pull such a gank off,

EDIT: Modules are not maxed out with that fit either. Total module cost is 850mil total for 8 modules.
There isn't really any point going more expensive anyways, as EM is the lowest resist anyways and already has an X-type equipped. Better MWD will have fitting troubles.

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Keilateau Shakor
Shakor Freight and Mining Service
#11 - 2014-06-20 10:49:55 UTC
Dally Lama wrote:
I think you guys are missing the point of these kinds of DST fits. P

Without using such pricey modules you cannot hit 1,000,000 EHP, which makes you nearly ungankable in high-sec. Sure, you can technically be ganked, but the logistics in play make it nearly impossible. Simpy put, no one has that much DPS ready.

If your modules cost 50b it would still be "safe" because they'd still need more DPS than they have to kill you. Not even the largest fleets during Burn Jita had enough DPS to pull such a gank off,

Looks like you have answered your own question then.
Dally Lama
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-06-20 12:02:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Dally Lama
Keilateau Shakor wrote:
Dally Lama wrote:
I think you guys are missing the point of these kinds of DST fits. P

Without using such pricey modules you cannot hit 1,000,000 EHP, which makes you nearly ungankable in high-sec. Sure, you can technically be ganked, but the logistics in play make it nearly impossible. Simpy put, no one has that much DPS ready.

If your modules cost 50b it would still be "safe" because they'd still need more DPS than they have to kill you. Not even the largest fleets during Burn Jita had enough DPS to pull such a gank off,

Looks like you have answered your own question then.

I haven't asked a question.

The purpose of the thread is to create a collection of anti-gank fits for the DST class vessels. I am only skilled to fly the Impel and have flown it for some time, so I am quite savvy with fitting it. Hopefully others can come up with equally impressive fits using the other DSTs, or perhaps even top my Impel with their own version.

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