Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hi everyone,

My name is Luna. I have a small web development company, I'm owner of the successful website http://sociopath-community.com, and I've even created some Eve Online websites a couple years ago-- before I started my company.

I have a little over 22 million SP, and I'm very well skilled in Amarr Cruiser, Logi, Cov Ops, and Cloaking, Drones, Shields, and Electronics. So I'm a curse, pilgrim pilot for the most part.

I absolutely adore the idea of being an officer on the bridge of one of these ships in Eve Online, and working together side by side with group members to win ship battles.

In Eve Online, players know so much about the game, they can basicly predict if a battle will be won or lost simply by looking at the ship. I believe that more players variables should be included in this equasion. It's too simple right now.

I'm wondering if there are others who are tired of playing the role of a space ship, one of only a limited number that exist in the Eve Universe, and instead, play the role of a space ship officer, or captain, working together with an assigned crew to achieve accomplish whatever the corporation is trying to do.

Eve Online is huge. It's development team has demonstrated their ability to produce very polished, and ambitious games. Eve Online is in the greatest position to improve on their current system. The modifications required to make such an update are not so vast. Let's consider them.

Ship models will need interiors, and the windows / display screens will need to realiably report the situation to the appropriate officers.

Each officer would need to have their own responsibilties, so features that each ship has would need to be expanded. One could imagine expanded shield functionality, weapons targeting functionality, ship navigation, even teleportation could be included when shields are down to allow true piracy-- where players can literally take over enemy ships.

I know this would be a lot to ask the Eve Development team, but I don't believe they are incompetent. It is my belief that if enough people were to attach themselves to such an idea, we could play a very large role in convincing the leadership of the value of such an expansion.

Thanks for reading,

Luna

Please refer to these couple of dev posts about the current state of avatar based gameplay ("Walking in Stations" or WiS): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2023395 . Note that they are from 2012, and there has been little to no news since then on further developments regarding WiS since then.

Just setting a baseline for the discussion here, before trolls jump in. It doesn't mean anything about the validity of the idea, but it is probably good to discuss it within context of what CCP is actually focusing on.

As a former avid roleplayer, I'm a huge fan of the idea of ship bridges and detailed crews and such, but that said, it would require (literally) years of work on the part of the devs to implement and may not even be possible due to the widely distributed nature of the game.

If theyu were going to do something like this, I'd prefer to see it as a single person immersive campaign game, maybe for the consoles.

im still waiting for my naval captain's bi-corn hats (see 18th century) and alliance colored frock.

No this would break lore completely. This would completely alter the story line of the game, and would fundamentally change backstory, history, and other such stuff, thus breaking the game world. This is a poorly thought out idea. The concept is interesting, but form a back story, lore, history, and even mechanical aspect, it makes no sense in the world of eve. you are stuck in a pod. why the **** would you want get out of it if that's what you need to control yoru ship?

It isn't sacrificing realism- it's sci-fi.

You control your ship through an advanced cerebral interface- its systems are hooked directly into your brain, and you have to be suspended in a hydrostatic capsule to keep any interference out, as you essentially become the ship you're flying. Doing so allows a pilot to take control of many more advanced functions than any normal human could, and drastically reduces crew requirements.

That being said, we still have crews on most ships- less than non-capsuleer ships, but a crew nonetheless. The cold fact is that we are simply above them- we can kill millions on a daily basis and not have a care in the world, because we're immortal ship pilots.

Read the lore. Seriously. It's extremely interesting and gives out so many answers- get EVE: Source, actually- it's an amazing source of information on even more things than I expected (It even gives the Jovian history as told in Templar One and lists their bloodlines), and I highly recommend it.

So anyhow, even if I could get out and pilot a ship as a mortal, I wouldn't. You know why? because I'm completely safe and essentially omnipotent from inside the pod. Capsuleers are amazing.

You are in your capsule to control the ship (alone). if you leave your capsule, why have a capsule at all?

I don't want neither bridges nor officers or personnel on my ships.

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Okay, I've seen enough here. I guess I didn't realize how sentimental Eve players were.

I think the best course of action will be to make a new game, and let eve players keep their ways.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

If the advantage is only slight, they would be better off piloting two ships solo than one ship as a group.

The balance is borderline impossible to create. You are talking about redesigning he main structure of the game which will eat endless amounts of dev time.

It's something fit for a new game, not an updated EVE. We aren't being sentimental as much as we are being realistic.

Hmm, yes, the error is with me. The past couple years I've been playing this game, I thought it had the most potential to create a realistic futuristic space sim.. and I thought with it's long term success this space sim would continue to improve in realism.

I see now, though, that sentiment has taken control over the long-time players who have basicly dedicated their lives to this game. They don't want such changes, and are quick to defend against them. With a player group like this, it will be impossible for the developers to do much.

I think the truth is I need to find a new game.