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Where is the Counter-CODE?

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Beliskner
Internet Loveshack
#21 - 2014-06-17 02:01:53 UTC
As much as I dislike CODE., when Xan Staraider claimed his kid accidentally biomassed his character after getting destroyed I almost pissed my pants laughing.

I was in Blackwatch at the time and it brought me a great deal of embarrassment to even be associated with him.
Subject 4927
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-06-17 05:54:38 UTC
Azov Rassau wrote:
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
came expecting anti-ganker tears

left happy

:
Subject 4927 wrote:
Jackpot.

Ohhhh Feely Nice wrote:
Yeeeeeeep. Call it tears if you like. I call it facts!

Congrats for the Bingo.

Best. Code. Diplomat. Ever.

You shouldn't hold your breath for becoming a diplomat (!) since you seem to have a tendancy to judge every post by its look.

Please come up with something better next time.

Apparently, honesty and facts being mentioned is considered as "tears" in your book. You obviously didn't read a single thing in my post above where I exposed facts from my point of view and answered to OPs thread related to anti-ganking. As any sane person will tell you, there are no "tears" in my post.

"Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skill book." + Diplomacy 101.

Then again, every single highsec resident knows the ganker's obsession with the word "tears". So maybe a willingness to have a proper communication with such obsession is quite useless.

Also, you failed to innovate in Nakugard that day, and ran away.

o/


What are you doing quoting me, peasant.

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Luwc
EISENWORKS Inc
#23 - 2014-06-17 06:29:40 UTC
top kek

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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
#24 - 2014-06-17 10:21:25 UTC
Anti-CODE alliances aren't allowed, as they have no Anti-CODE permits. For 500M/week we can supply them. Idea

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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Azov Rassau
The Hornets Cartel
The Marmite Collective
#25 - 2014-06-17 10:32:58 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Sadly, the whole anti-ganker crowd seams to be so full of hateful players

Hello Ima Wreckyou,

Again this misconception. Many of the dedicated and long-term anti-gankers are not hateful. We don't hate, insult or RL threaten anyone. The haters are often those gank-victim carebears who aspire to be anti-gankers. And I hope the care bears who send RL death threats to you will be banned ASAP. They're not welcomed.

Unfortunetaly the hatred also appears inside some of your alliance mates, be it Code. fanatics, or any of the self-styled diplomat-aspirants talking about their RL awesomeness in a virtual video game's forum's C&P section.

Below is why I don't hate the New Order:

412nv Yaken wrote:
All those afk shuttles, dock up to go afk, you wouldn't go afk on a gate in low or null sec, so what makes you think highsec is the same, we are the reminder that EVE is a harsh and unforgiving place and highsec isn't a theme park for carebears to play around in.

As you can see, there's no reason to hate. Full time AFKers don't play & understand this game and they often deserve the gank (yes, I say this as an anti-ganker).


As for the rest of your post, the answers are already given by myself in my earlier and longer post (I don't whore on KMs Ever., quite the contrary, I feel like CONCORD is the one who whores on my gank prevention).



Subject 4927 wrote:
What are you doing quoting me, peasant.


so mad.

I like quoting.


Also, Isolated Much?


o/

Be the change you want to see in Highsec.

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#26 - 2014-06-17 13:18:43 UTC
Reading this thread, I think I'm beginning to understand why there hasn't been a successful Counter-CODE movement, and why there likely won't ever be one.

Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Join the anti-ganking channel with an alt and you will find it out for yourself.


There's an anti-ganking channel? This I have to see.

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My Many Misadventures

I predicted FAUXs

Subject 4927
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2014-06-17 13:32:21 UTC
Azov Rassau wrote:

Subject 4927 wrote:
What are you doing quoting me, peasant.


so mad.

I like quoting.


Also, Isolated Much?


o/


Seeing as you have a collection of screens involving me, It's clear that you are one of my many fans.

I should have known. Quoting me from another thread, and taking out the context entirely, was proof enough that your devotion to me is of high regard.

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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-06-17 13:39:57 UTC
codies are very full of them self killing harmless miners. it needs a special mindset to fall for this propaganda and believe in it. in meta view they are just fulltime grievers. Ganking per se isnt the problem, the way codies behave is. Dont believe? Ask for erotika1

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."

Azov Rassau
The Hornets Cartel
The Marmite Collective
#29 - 2014-06-17 15:40:54 UTC
Subject 4927 wrote:
Seeing as you have a collection of screens involving me, It's clear that you are one of my many fans.

I should have known. Quoting me from another thread, and taking out the context entirely, was proof enough that your devotion to me is of high regard.


This was one hilarious post.

I quoted you (and another person) simply as a response to that ganker's typical "tears" bingo response. I believe it's entirely in context.

I remember agreeing with some of your previous statements in these forums and you have some good points in your blog too.

Maybe you should post with your main so that we know who you are.

Be the change you want to see in Highsec.

Anti-Ganking Fun: www.gankerjamming.com

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-06-17 17:10:18 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
There's an anti-ganking channel? This I have to see.

Be very careful joining that channel. There are some things the human mind should not be exposed to.

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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-06-17 17:56:14 UTC
Short Question, short Answer.

Where is the Counter Code?
Seniorplayers dont need "Counter Code" since codies are just a minor anoyance to them.

Who cares for a bunch of sorry griefers?
There might be some here in the forums but much less in the game.

a fact in the world of MMOs:
Most players play the game and are very seldom in the forum.
If ever.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."

Caleb Seremshur
Naked Oiled Bodybuilders
Parasitic Legion.
#32 - 2014-06-17 18:07:01 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
The main reason that every anti-Code movement fails before it gets off the ground is because all of them, to date, are based on a sense of entitlement, and a hatred of players who they perceive as being bad people in real life. By contrast, the New Order is based on fun video game content. You aren't going to attract and retain a group of gamers if your cause isn't fun. I always figured that the only way that an anti-New Order movement could have a chance of persisting is if they embrace the same tactics that the New Order uses - ganking, AWOXing, etc.

Even then, the odds are slim that they could ever match the New Order at that game. The special genius that James 315 has is that he keeps this fun every day, even after all this time. That's why you see so many people who start out fighting us end up on our side.


I'm gonna stop you there and say that most movement fail because you can't inhibit or control how the gankers move throughout highsec. Are you going to sit on every gate and on every station in a blap ship just waiting for them? Do people realise that once blap ships become a reality then the gankers undock shinier stuff? It's an issue endemic to the location, kind of like a modern corporate environment. You want to fire someone but you have to catch them screwing up first - even though you know they're up to no good your hands are tied until there's blood on the sand.

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#33 - 2014-06-17 18:32:08 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
There's an anti-ganking channel? This I have to see.

Be very careful joining that channel. There are some things the human mind should not be exposed to.


What is it? I am curious to see if what I've concluded from this thread is true there.

Relatively Notorious By Association

My Many Misadventures

I predicted FAUXs

Paranoid Loyd
#34 - 2014-06-17 18:33:37 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
There's an anti-ganking channel? This I have to see.

Be very careful joining that channel. There are some things the human mind should not be exposed to.


What is it? I am curious to see if what I've concluded from this thread is true there.


Anti-ganking is the name of the channel.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#35 - 2014-06-17 18:34:50 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Anti-ganking is the name of the channel.


No points for creativity....

Relatively Notorious By Association

My Many Misadventures

I predicted FAUXs

Winchester Steele
#36 - 2014-06-17 18:42:06 UTC
La Rynx wrote:
Short Question, short Answer.

Where is the Counter Code?
Seniorplayers dont need "Counter Code" since codies are just a minor anoyance to them.

Who cares for a bunch of sorry griefers?
There might be some here in the forums but much less in the game.

a fact in the world of MMOs:
Most players play the game and are very seldom in the forum.
If ever.



You are just adorable.

...

Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#37 - 2014-06-17 18:47:19 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Anti-ganking is the name of the channel.


No points for creativity....


Seriosuly... even though it would only be topical for a short while, where is the obvious CODE-Breakers channel?

"I considered a career in griefing, but then realized that I would never achieve the level of tear generation that CCP manages to do each and every expansion."

Paranoid Loyd
#38 - 2014-06-17 18:53:04 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Anti-ganking is the name of the channel.


No points for creativity....


Heh, the creativity is in the channel Lol

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#39 - 2014-06-17 18:59:03 UTC
The reason there is no "Counter-CODE" is because the victims are scared to PVP.... It's not just in highsec. I've seen nullbears do the same when under attack.

Even though Eve is a PVP based game it attracts a player base that absolutely refuses to get involved in any form of PVP. Maybe it's because their few PVP interactions have been negative. Being ganked, falling into lowsec gate camps etc.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-06-17 19:13:46 UTC
Azov Rassau wrote:
Bronson Hughes,

As an anti-ganker, I will hereby try to make it more clear about how anti-ganking works and why there's a lack of organization.

Several months ago I had written some sunday wall-of-text about the view I have about this subject. There are indeed some dedicated, anti-gankers out there who operate mostly individually and stop ganks almost in daily basis. The problem, and the lack of organization, appears with the gameplay of anti-ganking which comes with its own set of problems. You have to be extremely and obnoxiously patient.
You literally warp to the belt and wait there for hours in this position, while constantly checking local and D-Scan so that maybe some Anathema (ironically named as "salvager") will provide warp-in on top of a Mackinaw which you seek to protect.

blah blah blah and more quality blah


You have taken anti-ganking and given yourself a goal and a purpose. I can tell from your posts that you genuinely do not hate CODE as a group, certainly individuals within it, but not what it stands for and why.

From my experience though, you are a rare specimen of genuine White Knight. The majority of your kin, and all of them that I have run into personally, do nothing but rant and rave and rage in local, then refuse to back up their boasting with action, or when they try to, they fail horribly.

I think the herding cats metaphor is appropriate here. The majority of high sec carebears want to do their own thing, and play eve in their own single player, afk way. When someone interrupts that for them they get angry, but they lack the motivation and determination to actually take the necessary action (for any extended period of time that is, many white knight briefly before going back to their old lives). You might be one of the only sheppards among the cats, though perhaps you know of more.

To you I say, keep it up, you are creating content for yourself, for others, and even for CODE. That's what the New Order is really all about. Content creation is good for all of Eve, not just the people involved.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.