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Nestor - Anyone using it?

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Les Anthar
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-06-16 00:11:21 UTC
Seems to be an oddball of the SOE line without the coverty ops cloak. I assume someone is still using it, given the market value, but how are they using it? I have yet to see a Nestor fit that wasn't some (deliberate) attempt at a joke.

Enlighten me S&M bros?
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#2 - 2014-06-16 00:15:15 UTC
It's a BS size logi/exploration ship.

What exactly needs explaining?

I'd bet most are in well controlled WH's.
Les Anthar
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-06-16 00:25:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Les Anthar
Ireland VonVicious wrote:
It's a BS size logi/exploration ship.


Yes. Yes it is.

Ireland VonVicious wrote:

What exactly needs explaining?


How it's actually being fit and flown. Something we appear to be equally ignorant of.

Ireland VonVicious wrote:

I'd bet most are in well controlled WH's.


Considering it does't look any more capable than an RR domi, I kind of doubt that.
Dato Koppla
Kiwis In Space
Dock Workers
#4 - 2014-06-16 00:34:23 UTC
It's basically useless except for maybe some really really really niche situations which I have no idea about. I'm not disappointed honestly, it is by far one of the dumbest looking ships of all time and I wouldn't be caught dead flying it. It looks like a disfigured potato masher =/
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#5 - 2014-06-16 01:20:26 UTC
If the rep ranges get extended to shield RR range I may find a use for it

... What next ??

Rayzilla Zaraki
Yin Jian Enterprises
#6 - 2014-06-16 01:35:24 UTC
What's a Nestor?

Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues.

Valkin Mordirc
#7 - 2014-06-16 02:32:10 UTC
I know Failed is using them for Alt repping for station baiting, but they stay on the undock. and never stray from it. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen them apart from hugging a station. Ugh
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#8 - 2014-06-16 02:37:39 UTC
you see them on sisi a lot, i have yet to see one on tq though.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#9 - 2014-06-16 03:33:21 UTC
i think afk cloakers are using it.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Jill Antaris
Jill's Open Incursion Corp
#10 - 2014-06-16 12:24:21 UTC
It can be used as fairly powerful static Logistic platform for Incursions and Wormhole, beyond that I know not a single useful niche(nobody that claimed there is such a thing ever delivered, just a lot of hot air from people that don't own the ships and try to come up with fittings in EFT for tasks where cheaper options would be better to begin with). I own one and use it as Logi for Incs nearly every day and I know some people that use it in her C4 in combination with a few spider tanking Marauders.

You are also right that the ship is to expensive for what it does currently(because of the to high LP cost and other demand for SOE LP), not focused enough to be worth the price tag in a specific field of use and lacks a bigger field of application(mostly by not really thought-out ship design from CCP, in stats, slot layout and hull bonuses), however all that was already pointed out by people that actually own and use the ships during the first and the 2. changes to the hull itself.

From my point of view it is ok in a specific niche, but not really worth the price-tag(what extends the hull cost a lot in any useful fitting) compared to a normal logistic Cruiser. The extra 650 dps, higher RR than a normal logi and 2 extra remote tracking links are nice, but only a few people might be willing to invest a few billions for that. Btw the market value comes from the cost of the SOE LP that where used to make them in the first place and currently it is more of a collectors item than really a ship with a clear role and purpose in eve.
marVLs
#11 - 2014-06-16 13:37:02 UTC
It's useless, we all tell devs that but You know...
Skurja Volpar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-06-16 15:18:18 UTC
It's like a baby carrier, that's more expensive.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#13 - 2014-06-16 19:49:08 UTC
What I would do to the nestor is turn it into a blops ship. Have the cloak velocity bonus and ability to use jump bridge but it should not have a jump drive.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Camper101
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#14 - 2014-06-17 08:04:13 UTC
Skurja Volpar wrote:
It's like a baby carrier, that's more expensive.


And deals not even 20% of the DPS and has not even 10% of the tank and not even a jump drive to compensate... :D

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Jazlyn
OMG PWNAGE
#15 - 2014-06-19 12:52:46 UTC
1000+ dps (~500m of mods, range out to 80-100k) AND two remote reps. Yes, it's definitely a pirate battleship. Yes, you can do 88% of what it does for 10% of the price. Such is EVE. It seems no more out of scheme than any other ship/mod/implant/production power of 10 - the only thing holding it back is the odd placement of LP store.
Nolak Ataru
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2014-06-19 14:43:30 UTC
Jazlyn wrote:
1000+ dps (~500m of mods, range out to 80-100k) AND two remote reps. Yes, it's definitely a pirate battleship. Yes, you can do 88% of what it does for 10% of the price. Such is EVE. It seems no more out of scheme than any other ship/mod/implant/production power of 10 - the only thing holding it back is the odd placement of LP store.


Except that nobody in their right mind will waste most of the high-slots with lasers when it can theoretically out-rep a pair of Guardians. You'd fit 7 reppers, or 6 and a Energy Xfer, so you'd be using drones only, unless you're using 2 Nestors with full rep fit, so the lows would have tank and the rest CPRs.

The ship is trying to do too many things at once, and is failing to meet the bar at all but a very few niche spots; namely, station RR games, VG single/double logi, and being an ALOD waiting to happen.