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FDA Retracts Its Stance on Aging Cheese on Wood Boards

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De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2014-06-12 17:15:30 UTC
Handar Turiant wrote:
'Murica. Gotta love it.



Paranoid fear of any tapwater, grilling their meat stone cold cuz germs, napkins with everything. Hosophobia is a national pasttime.


Eh, don't let the news media sell that view. The paranoid OCD overmedicated victim-to-be persona that sells headlines is one that a lot of Americans (myself included) wish we could take out behind the woodshed and beat the **** out of. Unfortunately, we've let dumbasses run our nation for so long, we'd probably have to start a new one to fix everything that's wrong.

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jason hill
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-06-12 18:00:23 UTC
Graygor wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Graygor wrote:
jason hill wrote:
reading the content of that article just says to me that some people just have toooooo much time on their hands


We used to have wars for this reason to thin their numbers.

And on this, does this mean the USA is going to ban the import of about half the cheeses made by traditional cheese mongers in Italy / Greece etc? Since they all mature on wooden boards.


I don't think it's going to fly.

This is either someone at FDA "flexing their muscles", or an attempt by the likes of Kraft to sieze the market utterly.


I vote for the 2nd part tbh.



well baring in mind what kraft (which is now considered an angram for cnuts here in the uk because of what they did to cadburys ) I wouldn't be surprised .
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#23 - 2014-06-12 18:53:57 UTC
Sieges wrote:
I like how it said Kraft is exempt because it doesn't "make cheese"...it "manufactures cheese" :)

Well... Obama is Kraft Foods top contribution in recent years among politicians, so you were expectinggg.... ?

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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-06-12 19:00:11 UTC
Handar Turiant wrote:
Paranoid fear of any tapwater, grilling their meat stone cold cuz germs, napkins with everything. Hosophobia is a national pasttime.

Funny you should mention tap water... In the town I now live in we've had two episodes of fecal bacteria poisoning at this-will-make-you-sick levels in the last year. And this is in the greater Boston area. You'll forgive me if I boil the water first.

I do worry what that's going to mean for my daughter's dental health if we keep her on bottled water (we're using that for formula right now).

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Malaclypse Muscaria
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-06-12 19:16:47 UTC
Ila Dace wrote:
Nah... Regulators have gone bananas with power under the current administration. FDA, FAA, EPA, IRS. Granted, many of the appointees to these bureaucracies came from the industries they are aimed at. Even so, this is a case of sufficiently advanced incompetence being indistinguishable from malice.

Edit: I'm sure there's a move to ban bananas afoot.


I've been to the US many times during my life - I'm still a US citizen - from the Reagan administration to the current one, and regardless of who is in power, there's always been a common theme every time I've been there: most Americans really seem to love laws and rules and regulations.

Not everyone of course. And perhaps, many US residents may not be fully aware of this, just as a fish may not be aware of the water it's been surrounded by its entire life. But when I'm in the US, no matter where I go, no matter what I do, it's rules rules and more rules, regarding even the most silly things. Don't do this. Don't do that. This is forbidden. You shall be prosecuted to the full extent of the law (a phrase I always found strangely amusing). etc, etc, etc...

No other country is like that. I've also lived in Germany, but as much as they also love their rules there, it doesn't reach the preposterous level it does in the US.

I've been carded when trying to buy at beer at 38 years of age, with full beard, and then being denied it after producing a legal foreign ID because "We don't know what this ID is". I've been shouted at for having the temerity of diving into public swimming pools, for playing squash without the mandatory goggles, I've been harassed by cops simply for crossing a completely empty street at night through the spot I wasn't supposed to ("Jaywalking" they call it, a term I haven't encountered anywhere else). The list of personal anecdotes in this regard just goes on and on and on...

I believe this cultural love for laws and regulation Americans have, also manifests itself in the endless stream of American TV shows having to do with courts, laws and enforcement, or the ridiculous lawsuit-happy culture that seems to permeate every aspect of modern life in the US.

I'm not a libertarian - usually they just come across to me as nutjobs unhinged from reality - and I do believe *some* rational regulation is necessary, but after the personal experience of being constantly bombarded by rules and regulations one way or another every time I was in the US, I can understand and empathize where the libertarians are coming from.



That being said, and as others have pointed, this particular case of trying to forbid how real cheese is being produced and eaten daily by the rest of the civilized world, does stink of corporate interests meddling with politics.


Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#26 - 2014-06-12 22:01:50 UTC
I'm not worried, there's still a good variety of safe cheeses around: individually wrapped Singles cheese slices, nacho cheese liquid from a 3-gallon plastic jar, and Cheez Whiz squirted out of a can. They're all about the same shade of orange, but the flavors are subtly different.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#27 - 2014-06-13 07:05:06 UTC
Speaking of bacteria it has now been proven that you NEED to be "exposed to dirt" during the first years of your life to avoid allergies and such immunological disorders.
However I wonder how much of it is because of excessive cleaning or because of generally using too much chemicals with "anti-bacterial" properties because I believe that bacteria (as with penicillin) will eventually become resistant to cleaning products "anti bacterial" agents.
Graygor
1kB Realty
#28 - 2014-06-13 07:24:10 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Sieges wrote:
I like how it said Kraft is exempt because it doesn't "make cheese"...it "manufactures cheese" :)

Well... Obama is Kraft Foods top contribution in recent years among politicians, so you were expectinggg.... ?


Not to mention kerry and the ketchup backing.

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Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-06-13 12:37:06 UTC
Malaclypse Muscaria wrote:
Ila Dace wrote:
Nah... Regulators have gone bananas with power under the current administration. FDA, FAA, EPA, IRS. Granted, many of the appointees to these bureaucracies came from the industries they are aimed at. Even so, this is a case of sufficiently advanced incompetence being indistinguishable from malice.

Edit: I'm sure there's a move to ban bananas afoot.


I've been to the US many times during my life - I'm still a US citizen - from the Reagan administration to the current one, and regardless of who is in power, there's always been a common theme every time I've been there: most Americans really seem to love laws and rules and regulations.

Not everyone of course. And perhaps, many US residents may not be fully aware of this, just as a fish may not be aware of the water it's been surrounded by its entire life. But when I'm in the US, no matter where I go, no matter what I do, it's rules rules and more rules, regarding even the most silly things. Don't do this. Don't do that. This is forbidden. You shall be prosecuted to the full extent of the law (a phrase I always found strangely amusing). etc, etc, etc...

No other country is like that. I've also lived in Germany, but as much as they also love their rules there, it doesn't reach the preposterous level it does in the US.

I've been carded when trying to buy at beer at 38 years of age, with full beard, and then being denied it after producing a legal foreign ID because "We don't know what this ID is". I've been shouted at for having the temerity of diving into public swimming pools, for playing squash without the mandatory goggles, I've been harassed by cops simply for crossing a completely empty street at night through the spot I wasn't supposed to ("Jaywalking" they call it, a term I haven't encountered anywhere else). The list of personal anecdotes in this regard just goes on and on and on...

I believe this cultural love for laws and regulation Americans have, also manifests itself in the endless stream of American TV shows having to do with courts, laws and enforcement, or the ridiculous lawsuit-happy culture that seems to permeate every aspect of modern life in the US.

I'm not a libertarian - usually they just come across to me as nutjobs unhinged from reality - and I do believe *some* rational regulation is necessary, but after the personal experience of being constantly bombarded by rules and regulations one way or another every time I was in the US, I can understand and empathize where the libertarians are coming from.



That being said, and as others have pointed, this particular case of trying to forbid how real cheese is being produced and eaten daily by the rest of the civilized world, does stink of corporate interests meddling with politics.




Litigation culture, not the love of law itself if you ask me. More than enough congressmen in the US equate regulation to communism and anti market practice, which is ludicrous of course: there is no such thing as a completely free market. I work with US customers all the time, large complex contracts. Legal rules everything, everyone is afraid of lawsuits. In Europe the contracts are detailed, but they don't try to cover every eventuality ad nauseam. There is still the understanding that you're entering into a business relationship, and that's the basis of working together.

On the civil side with the general populace, people suing for spilling hot coffee over themselves. Ambulance chasers, etc. This is what drives a large part of the regulation warnings you see in everyday life (you will prosecuted etc...). Fall on the street over a loose tile? Sue the city, and get paid!
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#30 - 2014-06-13 13:30:54 UTC
Handar Turiant wrote:


Litigation culture, not the love of law itself if you ask me. More than enough congressmen in the US equate regulation to communism and anti market practice, which is ludicrous of course: there is no such thing as a completely free market. I work with US customers all the time, large complex contracts. Legal rules everything, everyone is afraid of lawsuits. In Europe the contracts are detailed, but they don't try to cover every eventuality ad nauseam. There is still the understanding that you're entering into a business relationship, and that's the basis of working together.

On the civil side with the general populace, people suing for spilling hot coffee over themselves. Ambulance chasers, etc. This is what drives a large part of the regulation warnings you see in everyday life (you will prosecuted etc...). Fall on the street over a loose tile? Sue the city, and get paid!



My favorite is the label on baby strollers:

"Remove child before collapsing stroller".

This was apparently a common and deadly issue. People's own stupidity is reason for our litigious society.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2014-06-13 16:39:09 UTC
Ila Dace wrote:
Handar Turiant wrote:
Paranoid fear of any tapwater, grilling their meat stone cold cuz germs, napkins with everything. Hosophobia is a national pasttime.

Funny you should mention tap water... In the town I now live in we've had two episodes of fecal bacteria poisoning at this-will-make-you-sick levels in the last year. And this is in the greater Boston area. You'll forgive me if I boil the water first.

I do worry what that's going to mean for my daughter's dental health if we keep her on bottled water (we're using that for formula right now).


I do wonder why America isn't rioting on the streets given that its governments can't even provide safe, clean drinking water.
Dorian Tormak
Rapid Withdrawal
Pen Is Out
#32 - 2014-06-15 03:02:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Dorian Tormak
It ain't easy bein' cheesy.

Cheese and pickles.

Oh yeah, nachos with cheese and Coke. And salsa and all that stuff.

Eggs n' cheese.

Lasagna.

Edit: Grilled cheese sandwich. Dip it in ketchup makes the greatest sandwich in the world even better.

Holy Satanic Christ! This is a Goddamn Signature!

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#33 - 2014-06-16 18:30:38 UTC
Victory for the blessed cheesemakers!

Man: I think it was, "Blessed are the cheesemakers"!
Gregory's wife: What's so special about the cheesemakers?
Gregory: Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturer of dairy products.
GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#34 - 2014-06-16 22:38:30 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Ila Dace wrote:
Handar Turiant wrote:
Paranoid fear of any tapwater, grilling their meat stone cold cuz germs, napkins with everything. Hosophobia is a national pasttime.

Funny you should mention tap water... In the town I now live in we've had two episodes of fecal bacteria poisoning at this-will-make-you-sick levels in the last year. And this is in the greater Boston area. You'll forgive me if I boil the water first.

I do worry what that's going to mean for my daughter's dental health if we keep her on bottled water (we're using that for formula right now).


I do wonder why America isn't rioting on the streets given that its governments can't even provide safe, clean drinking water.


Keep it down over there, Honey Boo Boo is on.

The problem is that we are surrounded by sheep here in the US. They take personal responsibility for absolutely nothing, not even their children. "Land of the Free" is just a marketing slogan, a horse that got sent to the glue factory back in the 70s.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#35 - 2014-06-17 01:37:52 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I do wonder why America isn't rioting on the streets given that its governments can't even provide safe, clean drinking water.
Why we don't riot over more government intrusion and takeover? We do, remember the whole dumping of the tea into the harbor and all that following stuff that happened? Straight
Riot over government not controlling us enough? I don't think so...

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Leezir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-06-17 02:03:14 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
jason hill wrote:
reading the content of that article just says to me that some people just have toooooo much time on their hands ..I wonder how many people over the centuries have died having eaten cheese matured on a wood base ?. Roll


I can guarantee you that EVERYONE who has eaten cheese matured on a wooden base has (or will at some point) die.
The same applies to drinking water and breathing air.


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