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1 Plex Alt

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Aaril
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2014-06-14 04:03:42 UTC
So I finally joined a corp after deciding I wanted to pursue FW. I am pretty much locked out of high sec at this point and would like an alt to potentially haul items to my base in low sec and also do some high sec trading LP store items I get in low sec.

Does anyone think this is possible to do in 1 plex? Are there some basic skill plans people follow when doing these quick alts?
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-06-14 05:41:01 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Quite simple:

T2 frigates in particular the covert ops line (for small item runs and scouting), T2 industrial (cloaky hauler/DST) for bigger shipments.

Top up with trade skills.

Could be 1 maybe 2 PLEX to get it rolling

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#3 - 2014-06-14 06:54:44 UTC
Haul what, stacks of ship hulls?

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Aaril
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2014-06-14 07:01:21 UTC
I was mainly meaning getting gear in and out. I think I may just use a courier service and use 1 plex on getting trade skills up.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-06-14 07:14:09 UTC
you can find out for yourself pretty easily by downloading EVEMon and making a skill plan for a blockade runner character. if you get to sit in a blockade runner with a covert ops cloaking device, you're fine. if you manage to train evasive maneuvering and hull upgrades for nanofibers and cargohold ecpanders, you're even better. if you can squeeze in astronautic rigging for warp speed rigs, you're golden.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#6 - 2014-06-14 07:25:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Yep, I have another character to haul and trade, and various cloaky courier type ships. Trade about a month of training, hauling another month just to get started for hardened low-sec transport. Even then it's best to have some corp escort once in lowsec. You can always use a highsec station for warehouse, then contract it over to your alt there, at least for getting stuff out. Basic hauling is easy to train, throwing whatever you can into armor or shields mostly.

Daniel Plain wrote:
blockade runner
~29 days just for the hull. Pretty much a few months just to get it to barely worth using imo.

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Aaril
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2014-06-14 14:37:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaril
Yeah, I was afraid 1 PLEX may have been too ambitious. With all the supporting skills necessary it may not be worth it. I don't even have the isk for 1 PLEX, so I was just going to buy 1 of them...no way I am buying months worth of them while already paying monthly for the game itself.

I guess the real question then is this...how do most pirates manage to LIVE in low sec with no real access to high sec markets?

Edit: There is an FDU station in high sec (0.6) nearby to where I live in low sec, I assume after my security status drops below -4 I cannot access this station though.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-06-14 14:50:58 UTC
You'e never denied docking at highsec stations. You may need to avoid faction police after your sec status drops low, but they're not concord, they are avoidable.
Aaril
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2014-06-14 15:15:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaril
So it sounds like having a high sec trading alt should be enough to support me in low sec.

Even high sec hauling (for example if I wanted to carry 50 packaged Tristans or something along those lines) sounds like it would take a decent amount of SP and I still run the risk of getting ganked.

The Red Frog service seems reasonable.
Georgie Ovaert
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-06-14 17:43:09 UTC
I wouldn't waste time, effort, and PLEX training a hauler alt when contract hauling is so cheap already. My trade alts stock a few stations in the Minnie/Amarr FW zone periodically and it gets done quickly and efficiently for a few million isk, plus I don't have to worry about ganks as the collateral has me covered.

YMMV, but I've long since got rid of my space-trucker chars. The only time I can see such a thing being necessary is if you need to move things to and from w-space.
Aaril
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2014-06-14 18:25:41 UTC
Thanks for all the replies guys. This thread went in the direction I was hoping...basically steering me AWAY from making a hauler. Big smile

I will start a trade alt immediately though.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-06-15 16:15:38 UTC
Georgie Ovaert wrote:
but I've long since got rid of my space-trucker chars.

I guess Georgie was one of them Shocked

Welcome back J'Poll.

OP, In my opinion, at least train a few basic hauling skills for t1 haulers on your trade alt. You will need it at some point and it doesn't take long.

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Ethikos
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-06-16 05:47:45 UTC
I am going to echo what you yourself mentioned. Use the various Frog services. Read up on contracts beforehand to make sure you do everything you need to (insurance, nothing to expensive, etc). As far as the supporting yourself goes, you can also turn in the LP you earn from faction warfare missions for faction items. Pick one that trades quickly and often, use the above mentioned courier service to ship it to Jita, and then contract it to your Jita trading alt. Sell it and keep yourself in ISK. Send ships and modules for your pvp ships the other way.

That or as you said, get a high sec trading alt (required minimal skills) and just make ISK that way. Lots of options. By the way, FW is a great area in the game. Lots of small gang pvp. T1 frigates and other cheap ships are very viable there. Gives you lots of chances to ease your way into PvP on the cheap (ie by flying cheap ships).
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#14 - 2014-06-16 06:03:40 UTC
There's a few systems on the border between contiguous highsec and FW space that have a reasonable supply of many popular FW ships.

I know I sell a decent number of (ship name redacted, trade secret) in a specific 0.5 system in Placid.

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Samuel Triptee
Battle Toad Brigade
Ribbit.
#15 - 2014-06-16 13:06:00 UTC
Most corps have people running between high and low sec with stuff on a regular basis. Ask your mates how they transport stuff and you'll probably find they will transport your goods too.

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