EVE General Discussion

Maybe the OP just wants something like faction war, but it would be empire militias that pay out LP for kills against sov holding corps made in low or null sec? There you go, some kind of arms length attempts to use capsuliers against those who might be a little problematic for empire's.

because **** you that's why

I bird told me that, once upon a time, the only way to get a bounty in EVE was to kill someone. It looks as if CCP managed to tell who can do what on who, based on their previous interactions.

I am very creative by nature and it took me about 5 to 10 minutes to figure the SOSIL (Shoot On Sight Interdiction License).

A player can activate a SOSIL on any player who shot at him while his safety was on green and system security above 0.5, with the exception of duels. When targeted by a SOSIL, the player will be shot on sight by randomly spawned NPCs if he loads into grid a ship equipped with any offensive module or combat drones.

SOSIL have a cost, and they're active until NPCs have destroyed enough properties of the target. This mechanism works as a bounty claimable by NPCs on armed ships belonging to the target.

A basic SOSIL would cost 15 million ISK, but larger SOSIL could be acquired. I am undecided on whether the size of a SOSIL bounty should be limited by the loss from the actual engagement or just be free for all.

Of course, there would be a counter-SOSIL; a ganker targetted by a SOSIL could just bribe the NPCs by paying 5x the size of the SOSIL. Anyway, a fraction of the bribe would be shared with the issuer player at a ratio of 5% of the bribe per level, so at max level, the issuer would earn a small profit from the bribe.

And here you have it, 10 minutes worth of my time and I figured a tool to turn ganking into a slightly hazardous activity for gankers.

10 minutes worth of your time to come up with an idea. 10 milliseconds for everyone else to figure out it's a horribly bad idea from someone who probably got ganked (unlike most of the rest of us who have never been ganked because we play EVE with our eyes actually open lol).

Lorewise? CONCORD has its regulations, they don't change easy, and getting directly involved in capsuleer wars is completely insane.

Game design perspective? EVE is designed around player-to-player interaction, not NPC-to-Player. You can already bribe CONCORD to look the other way while you blow up gankers, or hire mercenaries to bribe CONCORD while THEY blow up the gankers. But no, the game will not play itself for you. Sorry.



Except for the fact that you're not the only powerful outlaw out there, and in fact you're probably a pretty weak one on that whole scale, so it's much more damaging to set a dangerous precedent then it is to mildly irritate you.



The empires don't give a **** what you think. In the end you're playing along because you want to, and can quit working with them with virtually no consequence at any point. They're happy enough to take you into a militia and point your guns at other capsuleers to keep them (and you) distracted, but that's about the extent of it.



It used to be that you couldn't have a bounty put on you unless you had negative security status. So, you could kill someone, and still be immune from bounties if you still had positive sec status. You could also be a miner who accidentally sicced drones on another miner instead of belt rats and suddenly be open to bounties with your -0.01 sec status. There's a reason they changed the system away from that.



Wait, so you can't use the module until someone shoots at you, right?

Congrats. Gankers switch to Tornadoes and Thrashers and one-volley you (actually quite common already). Thirty seconds of MY time, and your little waste of coding time is circumvented.

No matter what little features or layers of protection you beg CCP for, the gankers will always circumvent it at best, and more than likely turn it against you. This is because they are smart, engaged, and actively solving problems while you are lazy, entitled, and more interested in having someone else do things for you.

Nothing is stopping you from attempting to do so, all you need to do is grab your guns and get on with it. Nobody is going to do it for you.

I've never seen CCP direct people down that path, in fact CCP does the exact opposite. Take a look at the NPE and show us where it encourages people to be psychopathic pricks.

The empires are made up of homo sapiens, capsuleers are homo superioris by virtue of being basically immortal and seriously augmented. Hence the empires are pretty helpless when it comes to regulating capsuleers, and have to rely on Concord to barely keep us in check.

You have access to exactly the same tools as any other player, it's not our fault if you're too damn lazy or dumb to use them.

Its DEFINATELY opposite day for you

EvE is the ONLY true mmoRPG out there

I dont know how you can get that the one game that allows you do to literally anything you can think of is not immersive

Anything I can think of? Like, hire relentless NPC to haunt my enemies each time they load into grid with an armed ship?

This thread started with an examination of come back offers for veteran and young players, and how, despite they being targetted at different demographics, they esentially sell the same experience: being a prick as New Eden civilization crumbles.

I hinted at thow I would like to defend civilization, and also at how the crumbling of civilization can be turned against those causing it.

It's all theory crafting, of course. CCP has already set its course and they will swim or drown by it... but as I said elsewhere, once the future is dead, all that's left to do is dreaming of the past and how different could be everything.

Why would you pay an NPC force to do this when there's these players called mercenaries? You pay them and they proceed to hunt down your enemies and shoot them in the face.

Or do you want an invincible omnipotent NPC force to do all the work because you have no idea how a sandbox actually works?

We don't rely on CCP to provide our content, they provide tools and then let other players do that for us.

NPCs suck in this game. They die by the millions every day. You can hire capsuleers to do what you suggest though. How can that not be impressive? Most of the capsuleers I know can even pass a Turing test. Not the miners. But the ones you could hire to "haunt" your enemies.