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Current FW mechianism is really bad

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Captain Jack Rackam
Riemannian Manifold Torus
#1 - 2014-06-12 18:10:58 UTC
Since 6.4 update, it's really hard for frigates and destroyers to destroy these cruisers in med outpost--only algos and catalyst can do it.
I know CCP wanna to encourage pvp fitting rather than stable core, and also encourage players to drive bigger ships.
However, given that the pvp situation in low sec, small ships are still the mainstream in these areas.

So, I think it is better to reduce the frequency of fw ships and reduce the repair capacity. Change the stable core: fitting a core will reduce 30% dps!
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#2 - 2014-06-12 18:11:52 UTC
Captain Jack Rackam wrote:
Since 6.4 update, it's really hard for frigates and destroyers to destroy these cruisers in med outpost--only algos and catalyst can do it.
I know CCP wanna to encourage pvp fitting rather than stable core, and also encourage players to drive bigger ships.
However, given that the pvp situation in low sec, small ships are still the mainstream in these areas.

So, I think it is better to reduce the frequency of fw ships and reduce the repair capacity. Change the stable core: fitting a core will reduce 30% dps!


sounds like it is working as intended.

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Stalking Mantis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-06-12 18:20:18 UTC
I only subbed after reading a simular thread.

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Red Khalmer
Minmatar Secret Service
Ushra'Khan
#4 - 2014-06-12 18:27:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Red Khalmer
Disagree totally with OP, I think its working great. I really like what they did to the plexes. If you are going to take medium you should bring your friends or a bigger ship than a frigate.

The Farmer tears has been plenty and its great to see. Now we just need to nerf the main ISK source for the Farmers which is the Missions. Faction warfare is going in the right direction and im overjoyed about it! Big smile
Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-06-12 18:34:11 UTC
Captain Jack Rackam wrote:
Since 6.4 update, it's really hard for frigates and destroyers to destroy these cruisers in med outpost--only algos and catalyst can do it.
I know CCP wanna to encourage pvp fitting rather than stable core, and also encourage players to drive bigger ships.
However, given that the pvp situation in low sec, small ships are still the mainstream in these areas.

So, I think it is better to reduce the frequency of fw ships and reduce the repair capacity. Change the stable core: fitting a core will reduce 30% dps!

Mission Status: Accomplished.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
Josclyn Verreuil
Dark 0rder.
#6 - 2014-06-12 18:56:51 UTC
The funny part is that you're just wrong, too.

Many frigates can take care of the medium rat )
Carlatto
False Profits
#7 - 2014-06-12 19:10:26 UTC
Captain Jack Rackam wrote:
Since 6.4 update, it's really hard for frigates and destroyers to destroy these cruisers in med outpost--only algos and catalyst can do it.
I know CCP wanna to encourage pvp fitting rather than stable core, and also encourage players to drive bigger ships.
However, given that the pvp situation in low sec, small ships are still the mainstream in these areas.

So, I think it is better to reduce the frequency of fw ships and reduce the repair capacity. Change the stable core: fitting a core will reduce 30% dps!


Get your skills up son!
SmokinJs Arthie
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#8 - 2014-06-12 19:12:12 UTC
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-06-12 22:07:16 UTC
Stop plexing in a stabbed ship son. On a side note CCP forgot to mention that they buffed the rats in addition to increasing the spawn rate. Empress Jamyl that rat DPS nearly melted me in a fight.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
GavinGoodrich
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-06-12 23:09:07 UTC
OMG so happy to see the tears and the changes yay

Haaaaaalp my head's on fire
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#11 - 2014-06-13 00:18:37 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Veskrashen wrote:
Captain Jack Rackam wrote:
Since 6.4 update, it's really hard for frigates and destroyers to destroy these cruisers in med outpost--only algos and catalyst can do it.
I know CCP wanna to encourage pvp fitting rather than stable core, and also encourage players to drive bigger ships.
However, given that the pvp situation in low sec, small ships are still the mainstream in these areas.

So, I think it is better to reduce the frequency of fw ships and reduce the repair capacity. Change the stable core: fitting a core will reduce 30% dps!

Mission Status: Accomplished.


Word.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
Templar Dane
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#12 - 2014-06-13 05:14:57 UTC
Try training actual skills on your alt, and stop fitting stabs. Problem fixed.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#13 - 2014-06-13 16:05:43 UTC
I have removed a rule breaking post.

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Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.

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Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#14 - 2014-06-13 16:12:54 UTC
ISD Ezwal this whole thread is a big troll.

The FW plex changes were put out months in advance. The changes were made available on the Test Server. So either the OP is trolling or he just can't be bothered to read some of the excellent dev blogs or other forum posts about this.
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#15 - 2014-06-13 17:17:36 UTC
Trolling a troll is prohibited? Bummer :(

nom nom
Shelom Severasse
Legion Ascending
Fraternity.
#16 - 2014-06-15 03:46:14 UTC
Captain Jack Rackam wrote:
Since 6.4 update, it's really hard for frigates and destroyers to destroy these cruisers in med outpost--only algos and catalyst can do it.
I know CCP wanna to encourage pvp fitting rather than stable core, and also encourage players to drive bigger ships.
However, given that the pvp situation in low sec, small ships are still the mainstream in these areas.

So, I think it is better to reduce the frequency of fw ships and reduce the repair capacity. Change the stable core: fitting a core will reduce 30% dps!

i can kill the medium npc with a frig. idk what you are talking about
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#17 - 2014-06-15 04:42:06 UTC
stick with the right plex size for your ship. Mediums where never intended to be soloed by a single frig.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Anne Dieu-leveut
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-06-17 22:20:52 UTC
Still feel that if you take your frig in a novice plex with the intention to do a 1vs1 solo pvp session, these pesky frigates are to hard to kill (read : I lose to much shield to feel confortable to take a fight right after killing the NCP) and on top of that they seem to respawn far to quickly (bringing down my shields again).
In frigate PvP it counts.

I had more PvP fun before the patch and I couldn't care about the cloakers really
Zenoidan
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2014-06-18 00:34:42 UTC
The change is stupid and it has turned FW into Pve.

You will kill so many rats before you get a fight or the timer runs out it feels like I am a mission runner. Seriously.

You will need a back up ammo hauler. Not lying.

No more fun t1 support frigs flying around. They cant handle the novice rats optimally. Just because you can kill 1 of these rats does not mean you have the staying power to kill the next 12. You will be at half armor and no shields by the timer the timer ticks or you get someone to fight.

No one wants this bullshit. The system is AWFUL. Its not working as intended because if it was it would not be deterring solo pvp. Right now no one wants to sit in an offensive plex only to be added on by a rat during the fight. Thats bullshit. This is a PVP mechanic, not PVE and right now you get more PVE than PVP.

How the **** is that working as intended.

Fact is if you are not in FW you do not know how awful this change is and you are in no way relevant to the conversation.
Zenoidan
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2014-06-18 00:40:03 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
stick with the right plex size for your ship. Mediums where never intended to be soloed by a single frig.



This is the dumbest comment I have ever heard. Most T1 frigs CAN NOT solo the novice plex effectively anymore. Dont believe me? Try it. Tell me how you far and what ship you tried.

There are only 3-4 optimal t1 frigs for novice plexes now.

But your right. Thats working as intended...Roll
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