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Now that would be funny if it made it to TQ. Who needs silly things like Neodymium, Dysprosium, or Technetium when one has an infinite free source of Civilian Miner Is at every station in the game? Capital-G. Capital-G.

worst case scenario you just close the window and open it again and don't add ALL THE ITEMS, but just the ones you're going to reprocess

I've asked this before, but I'd love an official response (and if there's a time to ask, it's now).

Almost all industrial processes in Eve require time: whether it be researching, copying, mining or building, your character has to wait it out. However, you can smelt millions of tons of ore instantly.

Isn't that both counter-intuitive and somewhat counter to general Eve principles? Most stuff is designed to take time and be faster with more corpmates involved. But the refining requirements of an entire alliance can be done by a single character.

It's weird. Let me just say that I don't want to arbitrarily increase anyone's grind, but assigning skills to tasks with instant duration is bad game design. It allows single alts to do the work of nations, and means that newbies with mediocre refining skills cannot market those skills.

Obviously refining could be set up and left while you did other things or logged off. Also, aspects such as mining, manufacturing or copying could be sped up to compensate – there's no need for the overall time to market for goods to increase.

If refining took time, there would be a refining mini-profession: more people would need to chip-in in larger corporations, and newbies with fair-to-middling refining skills could still be of use. Imagine if they could accept refining contracts from industrial big-shots and make a little extra cash while they run their level two missions. It's an MMO remember: the more interaction the better.

And if POSes then needed an extra buff to refining (over the proposed buff in Crius), who would object?

ps. If they want to combine refining and reprocessing into one word, then smelting would make more sense than reprocessing.

Just tried reprocessing a couple of things in station.

I'm seeing a consistant set of multipliers, but an inconsistant percentage return.

Equipment array is showing 56%
Fuel blocks are showing 49%

(scrap metal reprocessing 2 1.1 multiplier shown., no standings in station 0.95 multiplier)

(just an edit to be clear: I've stuck in a bug report)

We have seen your post on the General Discussion forums before.

We considered having Reprocessing take time early on the Industry overhaul process, but we quickly dropped that idea. Mainly because this activity isn't just something that only is used by Industrialist people. It's also used by players that want to quickly reprocess loot, or quickly get rid of hangar items.

That feels like a pretty weak argument to not have it take time. It sounds to me like it's the precise reason why it should take time. Someone who's not into industry can reprocess but it'll be slow and inefficient much in the same way that if they want to build something or transport large quantities of goods the same thing will happen.

There's already refining arrays in stations, refining could be added to the science window as a new job. Select everything you want to refine, install refining job. The stuff disappears from your inventory and (volume / speed)s later, it's done and ready to dump back out.

Everyone can have one reprocess job at a time that runs somewhere around 1000m3/s. Add in a couple skills that let you parallelize 6 reprocessing jobs at 1500m3/s. Anyone can still refine, but you need to train to do it efficiently.

This will put an even harder cap on gun-mining (which is mostly dead now) and hopefully the personal desire to remove all modules from NPC wrecks, including faction and officer stuff.

Interesting gameplay is highly subjective. If the mechanics are changed from something simple like press button get minerals to an involved process (at least slightly involved as too much gets bad fast). It changes the mining from mine ore-refine-sell minerals to mine ore-sell ore/buy ore-refine-sell minerals.

It's the same reason to get rid of OGB, it's a thing that's there that nobody needs to really thing about beyond having a single alt around to take care of it. My off the cuff solution might not be interesting or compelling, but it's not meant to be the end of the discussion, only a beginning (though it seems like it's already closed from the dev's view).

Further on my suggestion, if volume is used as the factor for reprocessing, it increases the value of compression and creates diversity in what, now, is a very flat market.