Market Discussions

I just recently purchased myself a new main which ran me more or less dry of the ISK I've saved over the last few months. I have more than enough ISK to keep my modest needs going for a few months but I am looking to get a close friend into EVE, finally, and I'd like to purchase a solid character for him as well.

I have a tested and profitable production set up that I use however I am a little low on the start up funds; the larger the pool of ISK I have to start from, the larger the profit, the faster I can purchase a character for my friend.

I am looking for a minimum of 2 billion ISK from someone who is willing to have continued relations over the next few months. The first loan (of 2 billion will be paid within a month, by calculations within 2 weeks but just to be safe I will say a month). As for interest rate, we can discuss that and come to an agreement. Once I have repaid the initial loan I will likely ask for another, slightly larger loan, in order to make - hopefully- the final push back to a financial position in which I can afford another large character purchase while still retaining enough ISK to continue my production plans.

I have no problem with giving out an API, as you will see from my API that I am more than capable of paying you back plus interest, I just need a larger pool of cash in order to jump start the engine again.

I realize that this is a large sum of ISK to be asking for, especially for my first ever loan (an uncollaterilized one at that) and that I will probably be trolled or called a scammer but if you're willing to discuss more details with me in the hopes that we can come to an agreement I would greatly appreciate your consideration.

All the best and fly safe o/


EDIT: Also, while I'm at it, if anyone is interested in buying some researched Bomb BPOs please let me know as this will help a good deal as well :p

API also, I think you're going to have to find some collateral, but I'll see your API first.

So many people asking for API and (so far) no one rushing ahead to cover the loan.
Me thinks some people read posts in the C&P section now and then.

Don't give your api to these people just look at their posting history, Norn will never give out a loan without collateral she just wants to out you as a scammer. They like to look special among MD regulars.

If anyone is serious they will contact you ingame not on here.

Oh and nobody can have a new account but not post?

Sometimes sitting back and paying attention will teach you far more.

My point stands the people that are replying will not give a loan without collateral.

Would my comments really benefit the OP who has offered and supposedly given out his api? (think about it my clever friend)

Feel free to send me a list of BPOs you're looking to sell with prices, nobody can say I don't buy those ;).



Actually I over 50b uncollateralized ISK loaned out and another few with the collateral being held by a third party, it just takes the right person. Until recently I had the time to find a use for my ISK, now I don't and I am looking for alternative opportunities.

As for private chat from the start, why bother? So you can have the same back and forth several times? It's easier, and safer for everyone involved, to work out the basics and find out who is involved before taking it any further.

If your going to make accusations at least base them on fact.

Have you seen most of the uncollaterlized offers on this forum, there's a legitimate reason they're given a hard time; most of them are lazy scammers. How can someone be genuinely interested in giving someone an uncollaterilzed loan* when they know very little about them or haven't even spoken with the person? That's just irresponsible and how you end up with lots of defaults.

If you state you have no problem giving out your API, then of course people will ask for it before going any further, that's obvious*. Rescinding that offer, after what appears taking the advice of a bitter two week old alt, however doesn't look great.

Based on your posts alone, I don't know if you're willing or able to make use of this ISK or pay it back. It goes both ways, but you're the one asking for money on a public forum.

* This of course excludes the uninformed, lazy or novelty investment characters who do not care if they lose money. I don't intend to make much, if any ISK at all, through investing, but I'm not about to commit to a loan based on a single forum post.

Elizabeth, I have contacted those privately who I believe, based on their past actions and behaviours (or at least those visible on the forums), would actually take my request seriously and therefore be presented with my API.

He may be 2 weeks old but he clearly knows how to make use of his capacity for reasoning. I have seen you posting on just about any forum thread you can, identifying and calling out those who are very likely scammers but if that is all you have to offer here, as is now abundantly apparent, then I must tell you now that I have no need for you. Please don't try to burden me with your narrow mind, not everyone on EVE is a scammer.

Also, I will have you know that I never went back on my word, I said I was fine with handing out my API, I never specified under what terms my API would be surrendered or to whom. As I cannot just ask for 2 Billion ISK from anybody, please do not presume to think that you can just ask for my API...as you say, discuss the details with me first and then go from there. Your ISK is precious to you...every bit as precious as every detail about my character is to me.

o/

Can I have an api too please