Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Do you realize that game development is a way to make money and all the game developers are people, who came to work for CCP in order to get money for the things they like doing? That investors give money to CCP to see bigger returns? Making games is a business. If CCP doesn’t make enough money, your game will be shut down.
While PvP games can usually generate content without much contribution from developers because interaction between players is the content of PvP games, with more money available from more subscribers CCP could hire more and better 3D artists, programmers and even get better bandwidth to distribute the game client.


Finally I can agree with you on something. War is not everything humans cater about. I too would love to see more peaceful uses for well-earned loot like terramorphing planets or build star bridges to jump through a dozen of solar systems!


A ray of hope indeed! The game is very punishing in terms of character progression in comparison with other games currently on the market. New players can do very little to accelerate their character progression. EveMon and careful planning don’t sound like much fun. One wrong step (or three) and you are stuck with the same set of attributes for a year. And modern gamers are not going to wait for a year to fix their character advancement.


Are you a communist or something? You want to punish people for doing stuff you probably cannot do, for making an effort, for playing the game the way they like and being better at it?

And that warrants the sacrificing of a good game? If so, then CCP has taken the wrong investors. Period. If a game must be leveled to meet the expectations of Angry Bird players and if this is enforced, or shall I say encouraged (to stick with the EVE terminology. ) by the investors, these investors are the worst possible money lender for the game and publisher.

If you need this kind of investors, you don't love the game or what you do, you just love the money. Simple.

Perhaps CCP needs to create a new type of Node where you first have to find a bridge point that would be similar to a Wormhole bridge point. Once you find the bridge point with your 'new ship' the ship would deploy a miniature Bridge Structure Depot that would then allow the 'new ship' to breach the undiscovered node and then deploy another depot that would link the two depots together.

Once the new system had been located it would not be accessible or linked to any of the other systems in New Eden much the same way that Wormhole space has node closure mechanic that limits the number of packets traveling through the normal system and wormhole system node.

The new space would then be controlled by the occupying pilot where large scale combat would take place without affecting the rest of the node network in New Eden.

Thats why I'm playing it, actually, and I even heard from one casual acquaintance of mine, who is a typical solo highsec carebear, that the reason he plays Eve is partly because it's hard - he wouldn't been able to treasure what he earns ingame if not for possibility of losing it any moment. Eve's character's progression isn't so hard, unless you have problem with planning itself (but in that case you've got a real problem as Eve and planing are inextricably linked; if you can't plan things ahead you won't even be able to effectively roam the game's world, no to say succeed as manufacturer, or PvP player, or to survive in spaces more dangerous than highsecs, and even in highsecs itself; it's a core Eve gameplay and you just can't rid of planning without ruining something and enrage its core playerbase).

Yes, I can agree that new players could be given some lift, but, in fact, it's already partly done - all those nifty implants; that exploration Sisters' frigate almost as good as covert ops, but easly accessible to total newbies; those op t3 hulls, which can be mastered to perfection relatively quick and will give you upon that such unimaginable ease of movement all over the world and unrestricted possibilities to choose your PvE activities I couln't even imagined while being newbie myself long time ago; those character market where most unpatient ones can get what they want from the very begining (the only counterarguments to this I've heard to the moment are that it's too expensive, and that you can't change the name of the character; the later is a real problem, indeed, but the former one is what I just can't get - why it shouldn't be? Just because for that money you could buy a bunch of some other crappy casual games from Steam? Well, screw them, I won't buy those even on -85% sale, anyway)

I don't understant why some newbie absolutely need an perfected tengu from the very start of the game to have some fun. Or some maradeur, no matter. What about other ships, are you implying that frigates aren't good enough, that they don't need to fly a cruiser, because it's too boring? Why they absolutely need to start with a 6 month old character? To have all frigates and cruiser accessible to them? For what? Purely to spin all them while in dock from time to time? Will it solve the problem? This, and not enhancing some gameplay aspects, because, you know, it's spinning your ship that should help you squeeze a joy out of game, not its gameplay and mechanics, right?

And what they will have as incentive for further progression than, to fly a capital ship as fast as possible? It's not very sane picture, IMO. Capitals, maradeurs and such should remain as some distant, vague dream, something you are anticipating for a while. And players should be more intrested in dozen of other ships available to them, as well as dozen of other ingame activities (well, Eve has problem in this department, indeed, as most activities available to newbies are PvP related; and this is what should be attended, in fact, first of all).

I think at best 3 month of pretraining is the optimal for new players. This will let them to have 1-3 pretty good developed t2 frigate/cruiser-size hulls and a BS of their choosen race (which is pretty much enough to find some fun and provide yourself with funds), not to mention all other hulls those skills will open to them. And from that starting point they will have to make some hard choices and set their priorities for the next 6-24 months, this how Eve is works, it's not a drawback.

I also see some reason in those proposals to substitute multiaccount training with sped up training of one account for greater subscription fee, but this one should be approached with caution and some reasonable caps should be placed.

Eve caters to Bullies! There I said it. They need to stop doing that.

But mostly eve is what it is today because of high sec. Yet they make it harder and harder to have fun there. When I started (08) ganking wasn't as common...it was more expensive because destroyers were worthless. The main way to get a high sec miner was to flip his can and get him to do something and then you could kill him. (dont remember exact way of doing it).

Eve has forgotten a place to foster new people until they are ready to spread their wings is important also.

Faster response times on concord. Bigger universe..games get old and stale if they don't grow..something new to do and explore. Eve needs a second high sec surrounded by low and null and connected to this one. The Eve universe is too small.

Change Sov rules to favor small allainces. I think if a system isn't being used..sov should drop. The same way the Industry Index and Military Index drops if it isn't used.

Honestly I don't know how hard it is to be a newb. But I do find high sec annoying as hell. And I have friends that won't play (that used too) for most of the reasons outlined in the OP. I meet a lot that want to carve out they own little section of space.

But Eve is not for everyone. It's not for the crowd that wants to instantly be everywhere and no consequences for failure.

And Monopoly to usurists.

No, to the binge eaters. The part unseen is the purging afterward.

And let's not even get into the horrors of the people who play Risk.

Oh well, things are pretty much okay then. As an outsider I am just sadly mistaken. And apart from the elite crowd playing Eve Online all the other gamers are just 14-year-old idiots, screaming and spewing profanities.
I guess I'll just come back in a year or two when more changes of the kind announced this year have happened.

PS: A cosmos theme park game raised $4 million within 39 days so there is a demand for cosmos simulators and I think such information didn't go below the CCP radar. The price of getting money like that? Changes I guess.

I think some of the older versions of the rulebook detailed that every numerical unit of troops you had in the game was a hundred thousand people.

SWG Refugee here, god I miss my dogfighting tie-bomber