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Strawberry Shortcake69
Hyperion Corporation
#41 - 2014-06-06 13:54:59 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
Perhaps we simply need to start a RAID NULLSEC month every year.



This idea is older than the wheel.
WarFireV
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2014-06-06 14:02:40 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
Perhaps we simply need to start a RAID NULLSEC month every year. All the corporations and players in highsec will stop everything they are doing and pick an area to raid on a massive scale for some truly epic PVP action!

We rush in and wipe out everything in site including POS sites.


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It will be the most fun you will ever have in Eve.
Mario Putzo
#43 - 2014-06-06 14:17:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario Putzo
Ill sum it up for you.

Null Sec is the way it is because the Sov system is utter ****. The mechanics of Sov War encourage N+1 mentality, give a huge advantage to defenders, and the ability to relocate entire fleets across the entirety of EVE in less than 20 minutes means there is no real surprise attacking.

The system needs a massive overhaul, and it needs to be changed to encourage a "Use it or Lose it" mentality. Ever taken a trip into Null. 90% of it is empty space, people don't even use the systems, yet they have ~ 1 week to form up a fleet to defend a single timer should it ever be attacked.

Flawed mechanics mean Blue as many as you can and outside the one or two big fights, (which are **** in their own rights) its just a ******* 2 month grind of shooting structures. The system sucks, and people would rather sit in station then subject themselves to the brain cancer that is Dominion Sov.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#44 - 2014-06-06 14:50:19 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
people would rather sit in station then subject themselves to the brain cancer that is Dominion Sov.

No wonder we can win sov wars, we had DaBigRedBoat and Lyris Nairn and of course N+1 bombless bombers

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Careby
#45 - 2014-06-06 16:56:31 UTC
Vivec Septim
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2014-06-08 01:34:43 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
1) Toilets are a necessity, owning systems isnt

2) Your example is flawed. Where are those whining they can't make their own toilets?


I don't know if toilets are so necessary if you live in the woods. The bushes work kind of fine... which is sort of
like Wormhole life if you think about it... those people who say "SCREW TOILETS, I've got a bush!"

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. 
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#47 - 2014-06-08 01:36:32 UTC
Vivec Septim wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
1) Toilets are a necessity, owning systems isnt

2) Your example is flawed. Where are those whining they can't make their own toilets?


I don't know if toilets are so necessary if you live in the woods. The bushes work kind of fine... which is sort of
like Wormhole life if you think about it... those people who say "SCREW TOILETS, I've got a bush!"


Those people have dirty butts and probably a disease

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Frank Doberman
7th Church of the Apocalyptic Lawnmower
#48 - 2014-06-08 01:42:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Frank Doberman
Analogy is flawed.

It's only really Caldari hisec and certain parts of Sinq which truly resemble a toilet. A used and un-flushed one in Forge/Citadel's case.
Vivec Septim
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2014-06-08 01:54:04 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Vivec Septim wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
1) Toilets are a necessity, owning systems isnt

2) Your example is flawed. Where are those whining they can't make their own toilets?


I don't know if toilets are so necessary if you live in the woods. The bushes work kind of fine... which is sort of
like Wormhole life if you think about it... those people who say "SCREW TOILETS, I've got a bush!"


Those people have dirty butts and probably a disease


Those damn, dirty, wormhole residents!

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. 
Sul Glass
Fat Dragon Mining Co.
Darwinism.
#50 - 2014-06-08 07:58:34 UTC
When you flush my toilet it makes a PSSSHHHH sort of noise.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#51 - 2014-06-08 08:39:12 UTC
Strawberry Shortcake69 wrote:
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
Perhaps we simply need to start a RAID NULLSEC month every year.



This idea is older than the wheel.


VFK by September.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#52 - 2014-06-08 14:55:36 UTC
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
Magnus Cortex wrote:
shots fired

Just a humorous remark regarding the OP's peculiar choice of metaphor. No offense intended to any nullseccers. Blink



It makes me so happy to see an ISD trolling.

OP: Sovereign nullsec is only one part of EVE. If you aren't interested in the blob warfare that goes with it, consider wormholes.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
#53 - 2014-06-12 14:50:34 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
Magnus Cortex wrote:
shots fired

Just a humorous remark regarding the OP's peculiar choice of metaphor. No offense intended to any nullseccers. Blink



It makes me so happy to see an ISD trolling.

OP: Sovereign nullsec is only one part of EVE. If you aren't interested in the blob warfare that goes with it, consider wormholes.


Wormholes is a good idea, thx!
flakeys
Doomheim
#54 - 2014-06-12 15:02:04 UTC
Trin Javidan wrote:
If you are at a festival where there are 21 toilets owned by 21 different toilet rental companies of which some are free to use and others cost 50 cents, everyone go's to the free ones and the charging ones probaly dont make much profit.

If you are at a fesival where there are 21 toilets owned by 3 differerent toilet rental companies (7 each) of which they agreed to make a fixed price of 1 dollar for each visit, than they would make a hugh profit because the festival visitors wont have any choise.

I dont know how it is called in english (and i am kinda a noob), but that seems like a pretty good sceme.

If this would be a real live case where the first situation is 5 years before the last given situation than i would wonder "what happend?". I would question myselve why only the surviving 3 toilet rental companies are left and if they would have a common factor that tributed to their survival. In a monetairy game where isk is power, it is more likely by having moar isk than the competitor. Looking at this logic and reflecting on eve; the deciding factor must lies in the early moments where the 3 surviving toilet rental companies gained a head start. The reson why is than simply found. So why is the current state of 0.0 so ****?


"Yadi-yadi-ya"

Ps: "oh and it starts with a T"


This thread makes me feel like taking a dump ....

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#55 - 2014-06-12 17:47:59 UTC
I wanted to live in a 0.0 security environment but didn't want to deal with the exploitation and political nonsense that goes on in SOV.

So I moved to Anoikis.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Spectral Tiger
#56 - 2014-06-13 01:16:27 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Ill sum it up for you.

Null Sec is the way it is because the Sov system is utter ****.




I agree, the sov system killed null.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#57 - 2014-06-13 01:19:34 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
Perhaps we simply need to start a RAID NULLSEC month every year. All the corporations and players in highsec will stop everything they are doing and pick an area to raid on a massive scale for some truly epic PVP action!

We rush in and wipe out everything in site including POS sites.




Please do this. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE COME DO THIS.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2014-06-13 01:25:26 UTC
Saw this on Help chat the other day: Hi vs Low vs Nullsec vs WH

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Zero Sum Gain
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-06-13 01:50:55 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Saw this on Help chat the other day: Hi vs Low vs Nullsec vs WH


I get the rest but who's the low sec dude?
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2014-06-13 02:48:56 UTC
Zero Sum Gain wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:
Saw this on Help chat the other day: Hi vs Low vs Nullsec vs WH


I get the rest but who's the low sec dude?

Actually I sort of wondered that too P

But such is lowsec?

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.