Market Discussions

Assuming one possesses know-how to pull it off and 1 suitable character ...

What is the minimum capital required for it?

What is the minimum time/effort required if capital is not limited?

Reason I am asking is that I always wanted to try this but it didn't pan out for some reason. I had a proper toon with proper skills and standings and everything, but I guess lacked the patience and then found ways to generate isk by other means.

Well I dont ask for know-how. :) I am just curious about entry barriers and general info in order to decide where is a benchmark.

I am not asking about 10 bil a day profit operation details anyway lol, so I figured I had good chances to get an answer )

It really depends, as the other guy mentioned - nobody is going to be specific with an answer, but I'll throw some experience down.

1 Billion/day profit is not a difficult thing to do, it's not uncommon to make this in a single trade or group of trades, let alone a day. If we are talking simple Station Trading then I would say you need to have at least 20 times that amount invested in buy and sell orders to be seeing 1B in profit per day - again this is just a ballpark figure, the items you trade and the competition will ultimately decide the profit/hour of those items.

In general, the less you have invested then the more active you'll need to be in your trading activities and order updating in order to keep your profits up. If you've got more invested then you'll be able to update less and still hit your profit target.

No, not for those who are still striving to make more, but you do start to look around for ways to make money with even less effort.

Speaking for myself i only aim to keep the wallet ''at the same level'' the last years.After a certain amount some people like me lack the will/need to make more however i never could see a wallet going down either.
I just try to keep it hoovering around the same mark with as little time investment as i can .

But in regards to the statement :'' you don't really want to spend a lot of time doing the same stuff you have done before over and over again. '' , that indeed is the keypoint .Don't ever become a slave of your quest for wealth as many have burned themselves out in that way .

If you are willing to grind 4+ hours a day then 10bil of capital should be plenty. With 40bil you can make a bil a day in c. 1.5 hours (updating your basket of orders three or so times throughout the day). Not sure about using more isk as number of orders providing a return will go up but you will have to work with lower quality goods to fill out your basket and there will be diminishing returns per unit of effort.

All of this is a bit abstract, though, as everything depends on what you have in your basket of goods.

Went down from 5 to 2 accounts recently and although i love myself some pvp over the last years i tend to fly easily replacable ships .

I used to pirate in factionfit tengu's solo etc for a while , learned verry fast that flying bling means jackshit in regards to actually having funfights and also winning fights.In that regard i'll have to thank raw23 for getting me into FW , even though i'm on a small evebreak atm and i'm usually cursing daily for people not ''honouring'' a 1vs1 at least FW is sure to give you loads of fun for a small isk/time investment .

I'm enjoying a breacher vs breacher fight more then a 400 man battle flying in a dominix as in my CFC time last year during the Halloween war.I'm one of those people who even after 10 years still get's his heart pounding in his chest with a 1vs1 fight.Loosing said breacher in a 1vs1 hurts me more then loosing a 200m ship when in a fleet , well basically when in fleet i couldn't give a **** at all about the loss tbh and that's not about SRP because i have never used SRP , i just don't get any excitement at all in a fleet and that is even with a small fleet.
So the plusside there is more fun , learning a HUGE amount more about the ships i fly unlike in fleets and a LOT less in expenses .