Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hey guys. Just wanted to confirm that we are going to be readjusting the warp capacitor use on the barges and exhumers. This change is currently scheduled for tomorrow, June 5th.

Have a great day!

1. Calm the **** down

2. it was unintentional and they are fixing it

3. drone damage was not added to the hulk it was given to the skiff

4. most new players quit for the same unwarranted reasons toy are whining, so no problem there

take this darn like before I change my mind. dude you need to rethink on plenty of things

Maybe I should link the solo bomber kill I made in my retriever.

Calm down. It was unintentional.

Call it a fat finger, an extra 0, or just bad math.

They made a mistake and are fixing it.

you do make great points, BUT and here the BUT... ccp fozzie and the others do not care, they'll care once their monies drop even lower, but still they live in a bubble of denial.. cause their "friends" are doing very well in the game since they already have an upper hand. each and almost every single time something is done it adds an advantage to the side that's prepared for it.. and there is obvious constant attempts to drive new players towards these mega corps and what not.. they basically want eve online to become mega corp online.

and not that its all bad but still.. I think its fun to be able to drop a nyx on a mining ship.. hey that's fair game! I think its fair game to be able to sit in a system cloaked until new yrs eve.. then hot drop an entire armada in just with my frigate!.. yes that's fair.. nothing is broken.. this is eve online the game of top excellence in balance and bringing an honest fair fight to mmo's.. ! Plex will save the day.. get yours now!!!

I will make yet another post.

Playing Alone in EVE is counter productive, and ultimately a poor gaming experience.

Corporations, are in general supposed to be a place you can gather with like minded individuals, to accomplish greater and faster than you could ever alone.

The purpose of the changes, are to encourage development and expansion of the player base.

Before, a while back now, I think Mittani is the one who stated it best: "It is more practical and profitable to let high-sec carebears fight each other on the most razor thin of margins and sell them the resources to fight each other with, and then ship their labors back down to null-sec for anything sub capital."

As we all know, There is a very limited number of things that can not be done in High-sec, one of them is capital ships, moon mining, and hard collection of Megacyte and zydrine.

The latter being worked around with module reprocessing, but the general practice for mining-for-production, was to mine an extra 10-15% in trit or other minerals to sell on the market and buy zydrine and megacyte.

While the Lone prospector ideology and game play style is a form of gameplay that is clearly done by people like Milla Goodpussy, Aalysia Valkeiper, and others it is not a significant enough portion or rather a portion that can be allowed to continue in the same mindset that you can AFK in a game to rub yourself in virtual money. No matter how self absorbed and vain you are in this figure of victimization you place yourself in, which you are purposefully placing yourself in since you clearly are on the forums it means you do know that it has been long established that High-sec is the place to leave for better profit elsewhere.

New players quickly shift into Low Sec Factionwar, null-sov war, and the various mining, ratting, or safety and training entities of EVE(RvB, EVE Uni, etc etc). However, every new player not sponsored in by a friend, organization(ala goons and Grr Test) is trapped in the basic assumption that missions and high-sec NPC activities are his content basis and nothing else.

You have the choice to do what ever you want in this game, you can stay in high-sec, be a big fat rock sucking care bear, milking missions and breaking rocks like a prisoner on work duty, but you will be harassed by the other inmates and criminals who share your prison, as well as the armed guards who work there occasionally beating you into line.

CODEdot, JihadSwarm, Marmite, and many others are both your buttpounding cellmates.

The industrialists and buyers of your materials are your jailers and your ultimate overlords. Risk and Entrepreneurship are the forwarding means to raise your power as an individual. However, fools and their isk are soon parted. Failure and set-backs are what keep many from trying again especially in the harsh environments that eve has produced as it's community grows in size, and cunning.

So many people in this game, have grown unable to find a means to reasonably trust one another. When it does not take a very complicated nor demanding organizational structure to set up a system by which miners can have a Hull SRP, Profit sharing, and proper operational procedures for group or individual operation.

Miners have long since moved to null or grouped up in places to operate in better conditions and for safer profit for all involved than solo high-sec.

Banditry is a fact of life, and in eve there is no great driving force that can stop it as it is too profitable and entertaining of a life for most new blood.

You can fight off bandits, the tools are available, but you don't get to sit pretty alone and untouchable.

Wellno specific "ore yield, but not ice yield" there

[quote=Smugest Sniper]I will make yet another post.

Playing Alone in EVE is counter productive, and ultimately a poor gaming experience.

Corporations, are in general supposed to be a place you can gather with like minded individuals, to accomplish greater and faster than you could ever alone.

Another one of those 'I thought it so it must be so' idealists.

When are those same people going to wise up and realize that mining, be it Empire, Lo Sec or Null Sec based is essentially a solo occupation undertaken by individuals and not whole fleets of like minded people desperate to associate and interact with others.

Truth is most miners I know are so secretive about were and when they mine they would be happy if no one ever knew they were online at all, sadly all the decent ice miners have long since quit due to the belt nerf, unwilling to romp around the region chasing after ice belts that someone thought would be another one of those good ideas to allow to deplete, instead they simply log off until the belt respawns again and carry on mining ice in the same system day after day, quietly unnoticed and hoping it stays that way

It would appear that CCP Devs have the idea in there minds that having failed miserably at getting these miners to interact with other players they will now 'Force' them to do so again under the banner of 'Improvements' to the game without ever realizing that the more they try and force players to do something they know is inherently bad for there style of game play, particularly in Null Sec, the more these players will resist it using any means possible again to avoid contact with other players even to the point of just simply not mining at all.

So simply put, there are two types of people involved here, those that really should leave EVE and go play a generic FPS on the an Xbox, and those that just wish to log in for a few hours mine some roids and log off again, they don't want to move around whole regions, and will not, they don't want to fight other players, considering the ships they fly why would they, No, they have one finger on the 'I'm outter here' button, one eye on local and the other on intel and listen to music or some such and are very happy with what they are doing.

How come then that everyone with a soap box wants to change this, feels that it is there life ambition to rescue these lost souls by any means required but never once considering that they might actually be quite happy with this style of game play, and if this is the case, how does changing it improve the game for them

Is this an argument for nerfing local and having friends? Granted, apparently it isn't friends (since they want to mine alone), just other people who want to (mine/rat) alone pointing out there's badguys nearby.