Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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I counter that question with another.

When have the drones a miner can carry been able to stop a ganker (unless the ganker is woefully unprepared)?

guns won't help you then either.

If dps from drones cant kill them in time what makes you think turrets will?

E: also, I have stopped a bomber from killing my rat-tanking mack with only valkyries before. It can be done.

None of those were a procurer/skiff

give the miners a way to turn the tables on gankers and watch the flow to low sec.

The best way is easy.

Rigs

have a rig that takes so much cargo or ore hold (maybe 1500 m3 for a small one) that warships can't mount it.
make that rig mount a turret for a weapon (a small turret for that 1500 m3 rig)
give flat bonuses ( not % bonuses) to one or more of the following:

Total shield
Shield regen
Total capacitor
Capacitor regen

Such a setup would make even a venture rigged fully a tough costumer for a 'ganker-fitted' destroyer.
That destroyer would have to be fully fitted for combat to fight that venture, but then the ganker would lose a hell of a lot more isk if that ship was destroyed.

That would cause the ganker to hesitate before engaging a miner (is it a disguised combat ship?) and possibly give the true miner a chance to escape.

were you a solo miner?

I am. I have had several bad experiances joining player corps who promised I would only mine. EVERY SINGLE ONE expected me to jump in a warship and participate in a declared war less than twenty-four hours after I joined. This is AFTER I told them I WOULD NOT PvP.

I am not a Pvp player and I am a solo player. I will stay mining in High sec until I can turn the tables on gankers while pretending to be a solo miner.

My outlook is NOT as rare as you or CCP seem to think it is.

I am aware CCP wants this to be a 'team game' with the corps being the teams

That is not news to me.

I am not struggling, BTW.

I just passed off a fleet numbering more than 100 ships to a new character (I don't run game alts, just this forum alt).

That character is quietly and steadily building skills to pilot those ships.

there are 9 BBs, 14 BCs, a freighter from EACH of the main factions, and four orcas in that fleet. The bank account now boasts in excess of 2 billion isk, which I think is good for a solo player.

I know other players can boasts bigger fleets/bank accounts, but I am satisfied, not struggling.

I suspect CCP does not want players to succeed in the manner I have and I couldn't care less.

When they finally force me out of High Sec mining, it will be out of EvE online.

I am more worried about them forcing new players who are testing the game (with trial accounts) to decide other games are better.

yes i was for quite a while, then i eventually gathered myself a few alts to increase my production.

even during my solo times, even if i couldn't fly whatever the doctrine was or i didnt have the ship on hand i would find some way to participate (every fleet can use some cheap tackle or ewar frigs). No one is going to blame you if you do what you can.

You don't want to help defend or fight for the space you are using? then you don't belong there. You could always find a quiet system in NPC null and try there, theres even a new prospect coming out which will make this trivially easy.

Worst case scenario go join provi block. You don't even have to be in one of the corps to use their space last I checked (i used to have my alts there).

If I actually believed the Skiff or Procuror would actually survive that ganker, I'd agree.

I'm not saying these Retreivers or Macks are barely paying themselves off beffore they're ganked.

Look at the timing.
That's not very many ganks for a year.
Especially when I have a system developed which could (before this next update) pay off a mack in 10 days.

I'm satisfied with the return rate off my mining in high sec before this KRONOS update.
It may take a while to 'tweak' my system to become productive after this tuesday, but I will.
The gankers hit me too often to be productive, I sure as hell wouldn't be convinced to go to low sec if I can't shoot back.

Null sec is one thing of course. Using a Skiff anywhere would be the least gankable ship possible. But even in high sec Mackinaws and Hulks are on the ganking menu. Why? Because you can drop a 10mil catalyst on a 200mil+ mack/hulk and get a kill.... IN HIGH SEC! The cost vs EHP is too low.

As you mentioned in one of your situations, you lasted long enough for help to arrive and scare off your attacker. Why should that be limited to just Skiffs? Especially now that they've given it a Drone damage/hp bonus.

Would it really be so bad to give the hulk a tank as great or greater than the Skiff in exchange for losing it's drone bay? With it's small ore bay it wouldn't be the pinnacle solo miner again, but it would be useable in fleet mining unlike now. And with the buffed drones, Skiffs would be able to defend them in fleets since they wouldn't just evaporate immediately. What if Mackinaws got a bonus to Shield Repair Drones?

Wouldn't that make for a pretty cool and dynamic fleet set up?

The way things are now, Hulks are pretty much limited to dead-end null pocket mining with very good intel.