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Proposal: Multibox use should only be allowed outside of NPC corps.

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Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#1 - 2014-06-02 23:39:51 UTC
As said in the title, Multiboxing only really works for mining and possible missions if you know what you are doing, however it presents a huge problem when one player can eat an entire belt singlehandedly in high-sec with minimal risk, often in or near newbie systems, depriving new players of a reliable source of income in the first few minutes of the game.

If all multiboxers were forced to stay in a player corp then it would assist in letting older players help in stopping people with money ruining the "mining experience" for new players.

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#2 - 2014-06-03 07:56:40 UTC
And how do you expect CCP to monitor this?

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Careminer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-06-03 10:58:02 UTC
I agree to protect newbie systems against veterans, but like Jint said: you can't monitor that. I think it should even be extended beyond multiboxers. Considering new players don't mine a lot of m³, perhaps the solution can be found in setting smaller ore amounts in the roids -> discourages veteran players who need to swap target every 15 seconds
Chalithra Lathar
H A V O C
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#4 - 2014-06-04 00:05:40 UTC
Zol Interbottom wrote:
As said in the title, Multiboxing only really works for mining and possible missions if you know what you are doing, however it presents a huge problem when one player can eat an entire belt singlehandedly in high-sec with minimal risk, often in or near newbie systems, depriving new players of a reliable source of income in the first few minutes of the game.

If all multiboxers were forced to stay in a player corp then it would assist in letting older players help in stopping people with money ruining the "mining experience" for new players.


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Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#5 - 2014-06-04 11:49:23 UTC
Zol Interbottom wrote:
As said in the title, Multiboxing only really works for mining and possible missions if you know what you are doing, however it presents a huge problem when one player can eat an entire belt singlehandedly in high-sec with minimal risk, often in or near newbie systems, depriving new players of a reliable source of income in the first few minutes of the game.

If all multiboxers were forced to stay in a player corp then it would assist in letting older players help in stopping people with money ruining the "mining experience" for new players.


I beg to differ.

PvPers can multibox as well, without 3rd party apps like ISBoxer. That effectively debunks your primary reason for this topic, multiboxing miners (who are not allowed in starter systems anyway) aside....

So your real problem isn't that you don't know how to use multiboxing to your advantage... its that you:

1) Don't care to have more than 1 account
2) Can't afford more than 1 account
3) Don't agree with the concept of multiboxing in the cruelest MMO game on the planet
4) Can't be asked to "bump" them or shoot them.
5) Are jealous of people who have overcome 1,2,3 and 4 and would like CCP to nerf them so you can play "your game".

As such, Eve Online is not the game for you.

-1 to your OP.

+1 for your tears.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Mag's
Azn Empire
#6 - 2014-06-04 19:43:40 UTC
Zol Interbottom wrote:
As said in the title, Multiboxing only really works for mining and possible missions if you know what you are doing, however it presents a huge problem when one player can eat an entire belt singlehandedly in high-sec with minimal risk, often in or near newbie systems, depriving new players of a reliable source of income in the first few minutes of the game.

If all multiboxers were forced to stay in a player corp then it would assist in letting older players help in stopping people with money ruining the "mining experience" for new players.

If you feel they do it with minimum risk, then add risk yourself. Silly limitations that would be hard to police, are not the way to add risk. Especially when war avoidance is so easy.

Also, I find the whole 'source of income' and 'ruining the mining experience for new players' argument, rather weak and hard to quantify. Seeing as there are still, many many belts out there.

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Prostetnik Vogon Jeltz
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-06-23 20:31:55 UTC
Multiboxing works in all parts of the game, I multibox myself but I refuse to use third party software to facilitate this as that is nothing more than botting,

Controlling one char and relying on third party software to control 'X' amount of chars is basically against EULA and has an effect on the in game economy which affects everyone in game.

Will CCP ban multiboxing software?

No because they are making money from it.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
Lost Obsession
#8 - 2014-06-24 10:38:05 UTC
Prostetnik Vogon Jeltz wrote:
Multiboxing works in all parts of the game, I multibox myself but I refuse to use third party software to facilitate this as that is nothing more than botting,

Controlling one char and relying on third party software to control 'X' amount of chars is basically against EULA and has an effect on the in game economy which affects everyone in game.

Will CCP ban multiboxing software?

No because they are making money from it.



Really?

By that logic CCP would not be banning botters (who I suspect run far, far more accounts than ISBoxers) which they clearly are.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law

De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-06-24 13:39:42 UTC
Multiboxerrs are ebil thread # 2,907,876,802,987,421.

This must be the whine of the week - all I see are these threads.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
#10 - 2014-06-25 02:17:47 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Multiboxerrs are ebil thread # 2,907,876,802,987,421.

This must be the whine of the week - all I see are these threads.


Probably because Wildstar basically banned ISBoxer, just like Guild Wars 2 did. Then again, WoW allows ISBoxer Big smile

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Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-08-05 00:04:49 UTC
Zol Interbottom wrote:
As said in the title, Multiboxing only really works for mining and possible missions if you know what you are doing, however it presents a huge problem when one player can eat an entire belt singlehandedly in high-sec with minimal risk, often in or near newbie systems, depriving new players of a reliable source of income in the first few minutes of the game.

If all multiboxers were forced to stay in a player corp then it would assist in letting older players help in stopping people with money ruining the "mining experience" for new players.


o look this thread again.
dark heartt
#12 - 2014-08-05 03:22:03 UTC
Zol Interbottom wrote:
If all multiboxers were forced to stay in a player corp then it would assist in letting older players help in stopping people with money ruining the "mining experience" for new players.



Your idea is terrible. It's so simple to just create a corp with just your own characters in it. Hell I did that for a while when I started playing this game.

CCP cannot possibly monitor this. Regardless of what happens with multiboxing software (which will be nothing because this debate has been going for years, and nothing ever happens), there is no way for them to actually monitor and enforce something like this.

Just move on from the fact that multiboxers exist. It's not that a big a deal really. If your system's belts are getting chewed up by a multiboxer, move on to another system. Gank them. Do anything except whine about it.
Drachen Protectorate
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#13 - 2014-08-05 07:44:33 UTC
Zol Interbottom wrote:
As said in the title, Multiboxing only really works for mining and possible missions if you know what you are doing, however it presents a huge problem when one player can eat an entire belt singlehandedly in high-sec with minimal risk, often in or near newbie systems, depriving new players of a reliable source of income in the first few minutes of the game.

If all multiboxers were forced to stay in a player corp then it would assist in letting older players help in stopping people with money ruining the "mining experience" for new players.


Give it a rest already. Stop with these sensless threads about multiboxing. It's a big universe, nobody is forcing you to stay in Ammamake all your life.