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Sisters of EVE branching directly from tutorial end.

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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-05-29 14:11:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Lar Tadaruwa
Jabalu Habalu wrote:
4. Run epic arcs for both of those factions either yourself or with a friend to do the killing.

How can you do that?

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Epic_mission_arcs#Epic_Arc_Starting_Agents

The only 1 Epic Arc from the Sisters Of Eve an be started as level 1.
The Empire Factions Epic mission Arcs require level 4 each.
I have reached level 2 for Gallente but there are 2 more levels to go.

I am working on doing more security missions.
I will try to test Storyline ones but they seem to be only Distribution missions to verify if it is faster.

I will also try to verify the exact rate difference and avoid inexactitude (or misleading, in fact).

The Pirates faction Epic mission Arcs require level 3.


As for running this with a friend, I unfortunately have to run this myself multi-client.

I currently use a Dominix with Medium Railguns (just finished training Medium Hybrid Turret / Rank 3 / Level: 3 / SP: 24,000 of 135,765, to upgrade to Large Railguns. I still need Gunnery V in around 4 days) Heavy Drones and Afterburner + a Navitas or Algos.

So the more new programs and new updates are running on the client, the more complicated it gets, period.
So much so that It now makes it worthless in fact, and PLEX to Bazaar profit ratio still 100%+ better.


2.
I've already reached level 3 mission for the Gallente, Federal Navy Academy, and they are not worth it.
I'm lucky to get 1 million for some mission, which normally takes 15 mins to 30 mins each, if not 1 hour.
The bonus normally is around 150k which is not enough to buy a ship or pay for insurance.
My money is again better invested into PLEX to Bazaar ratio.
Even at a 300% exponential curve gain at level 4, it wouldn't cut it.

And the millions estimate are from loot value, which takes time, even with a Moblie Tractor Unit (MTU).
Most loot missions are worth less than that at level 3 and some around 100k only.
(That does not include the hauling costs, time, and trader costs and time.
Further increasing the value of Bazaar Trading over other activities depending on the conditions...)


3.
I will omit the amount of times arguments are being presented to try to negate and discredit the more exact and appropriate scientific fact and calculations for Bazaar Trading.

I will also omit the fact that it would be or could be a blatant scam, fraud, etc...

But it is easy to see the exact correlation directly increasing the costs with the exact same ratio of loss in comparison.

The more I test and pay to invest into this, the more I lose compared to the small profit I would get from Bazaar.
The reason the profit is getting smaller, and attempted to be made smaller is purely competitive.
I can still make more profit in Bazaar, if not 10,000% more, despite the intentions to the contrary.
I simply transpose those attempts and intention directly into it to benefit from them retroactively.

Granted, it may cost a bit of investigative work, but it's nothing my Bounty Hunter couldn't do.


4.
Let's say I were to try to claim the above 3. as false myself, even though I am not, I could still benefit from it.

It would however diminish the value of the profit gained and the value of the potential profit although not the actual potential profit.
It is more of an evaluative thing or decision than a factual, scientific one.
I use trial and error to arrive to conclusions.


5.
The only time I did FW solo, I got destroyed by enemy troops (non- NPCs and NPCs, drones or not) spying on me.
It again did not make it worth it for me to pursue, except for the fact that I got to collect data on them.
They still got the loot from my destroyed ships and/or destroyed implants.

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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-05-30 11:13:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Lar Tadaruwa
Don't do like me and accept the Mission report to Gallente Commander
(*opening the mission screenshot because the name doesn't show once accepted.
on top of refusing to be opening the Journal data)

(I just saved it and the screenshot was deliberately removed without my control.)
(Searching online for the mission name that is not showing...)

(Maybe :
Next Mission: Mission 47: The Missing Link...
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Chasing_Shadows)

right during the Server shutdown...


Edit:
I completed the Epic Arc missions storyline and the quest giver won't give anymore missions from Arnon after.
I don't know if that resets after 3 months yet even though I suspect it could be the case.

There is no bonus to faction after. Everything happened before.
The Quest giver does function with another pilot though.
1.5 hour + 3 hours.


Edit on June 2nd '14:
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Epic_mission_arcs#Rewards
"Please note: Faction standing increase may not be given if a mission is turned in as a fleet. Faction standing is not supposed to be shared and petitioning it will result in only the pilot receiving the Faction standing increase. Fleet members will only gain Corporation and Agent standing increase."

That means that, if the rewards are shared, the faction standing increase may not be applied unless petitioned.
That is (partly) why I didn't get my faction increase bonuses.

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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-06-02 19:24:45 UTC
I now reached level 3.

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Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2014-06-02 19:50:39 UTC
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-06-02 20:50:55 UTC
16.4 m first mission loot with salvage and rewards + bonus 1100 LP.
Enough for free implants upgrade to +2 , then +3 to level 4.

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Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2014-06-02 22:15:39 UTC
Free blogs are over there.

Or did you actually have a question about missions?
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-06-02 22:43:11 UTC
Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
... did you ... have a question about missions?

I asked and it took about 3 weeks to sort it out.

My second mission only paid 100k ISK + rewards but my standing now is 3.34.
I need only 1.66 to get a level 4 mission.
I am afraid I will need a better ship to succeed.
We used to do level 4 or 5 missions with 10 or 20 people.

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ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#28 - 2014-06-02 23:35:08 UTC
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