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Kill rights on two gankers, now what?
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Speed Destiny
Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#1 - 2014-06-02 05:57:15 UTC
OK, so I got my kill rights on two gankers, and I want to hunt them down for 29 days.

I used a locator agent, he emailed me, went there in a war ship I waited for them they got out and warped before I could do anything.

Went back home, took a cloaked frigate, went to their new location and waited cloaked to see what they are up to... but they went offline.

I am totally new to this but willing to learn and do my revenge. What ship I need to buy for this?

I think they were two Catalysts, did not think I was scrambled or webified when they yanked my Retriever. I am willing to spend lots of ISK to hunt them down.

Can somebody give me some hints on how to start, how to do it? Maybe even find warriors to help me? Are others allowed to kill on my kill rights if in a fleet?

Thanks.
Speed Destiny
Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#2 - 2014-06-02 05:59:57 UTC
I can fly any T1 caldari Frigate-Battleship and soon some T2. I only have T2 industrials and covert ops for now, no warships.

But i am willing to learn and spend ISK to hunt this guys down.
Speed Destiny
Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#3 - 2014-06-02 06:09:43 UTC
Should I suit up for a Crow? Something else? My Drakes? Ravens? Cormorants? Advertise for some PvP help?
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-06-02 06:31:49 UTC
Make it available for everyone for a price. That way people unaffiliated to you can aggress them in their carebear ships if they live in highsec.

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Speed Destiny
Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#5 - 2014-06-02 06:42:42 UTC
How? Bounty? They already have few tens of millions each. But I also want to get involved somehow. To know I got my revenge.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-06-02 07:22:31 UTC
Speed Destiny wrote:
How? Bounty? They already have few tens of millions each. But I also want to get involved somehow. To know I got my revenge.


Go to your character sheet and go to the killrights tab. You'll see your killrights to said ganker. On the right side there's 3 rectanles that from a square, click it. Now choose the option "set killright for everyone". Pick a modest price. Now if someone sees them in local they can activate your killright to shoot them without getting CONCORDDOKKEN.

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Dreadchain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-06-02 07:25:39 UTC
Speed Destiny wrote:
How? Bounty? They already have few tens of millions each. But I also want to get involved somehow. To know I got my revenge.



There's a little button in the killright menu to make it available to others.

Note that if the people who you have killrights on are below -5.0 security status, anyone can already attack them at anytime anyway. The killright won't do anything, but you might be able to fish a small amount of money out of it.

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Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#8 - 2014-06-02 07:45:31 UTC
Revenge is fine motivation for violence. Unfortunately with this one you need some patience. Once you activate your killrights, you have 15 minute window to destroy your target. I would not try this under station as your target can simply dock as long as he does not fire back. You need to catch him somewhere where he cannot run into safety right away.

You could have 1 cloacked buddy keeping track on them and waiting till they are in vulnurable position. Your buddy sneaks close, Decloacks and scrambles the moment you land on the grid with heavy DPS vessel. You blast the targets to hell and be happy.

Presuming they are gankers by profession and fly Catalysts all the time, you should be able to one shot them with ships like.. say.. Tornado. To make sure of it, you can overheat weapons to have little extra damage. Remember to activate killrights before you fire.
Speed Destiny
Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#9 - 2014-06-02 07:56:04 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Speed Destiny wrote:
How? Bounty? They already have few tens of millions each. But I also want to get involved somehow. To know I got my revenge.


Go to your character sheet and go to the killrights tab. You'll see your killrights to said ganker. On the right side there's 3 rectanles that from a square, click it. Now choose the option "set killright for everyone". Pick a modest price. Now if someone sees them in local they can activate your killright to shoot them without getting CONCORDDOKKEN.


DONE!

2000 ISK. I hope this is what somebody needs to pay to activate the kill right. I have no clue how this works. So they have 15 mins, then this kill right is over and done with?
Speed Destiny
Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#10 - 2014-06-02 08:03:10 UTC
Ro Fenrios wrote:
Revenge is fine motivation for violence. Unfortunately with this one you need some patience. Once you activate your killrights, you have 15 minute window to destroy your target. I would not try this under station as your target can simply dock as long as he does not fire back. You need to catch him somewhere where he cannot run into safety right away.

You could have 1 cloacked buddy keeping track on them and waiting till they are in vulnurable position. Your buddy sneaks close, Decloacks and scrambles the moment you land on the grid with heavy DPS vessel. You blast the targets to hell and be happy.

Presuming they are gankers by profession and fly Catalysts all the time, you should be able to one shot them with ships like.. say.. Tornado. To make sure of it, you can overheat weapons to have little extra damage. Remember to activate killrights before you fire.


Now this is what I want to learn.

1. How you activate kill rights? I cannot just shoot them on sight?
2. I don't have a buddy yet... :( I need to learn how to track them and when they are vulnerable...

Tornado? I trained Caldari and missile specialization. I have a few Drakes, Navy Drakes and so on. About 20 warships of all kinds, almost exclusively Caldari. Osprey, Cormorant, Hookbill, Navy issues... You name it. If they can blew up my 40 mil ISK peaceful miner I can blew up too 4 PLEX to get revenge.

3. Do I need some kind of scrambler or webifier to keep them put?

4. Do I need to scan them with probes after got out of a station and flew away? How do I follow them? How do I know where they went?

Sorry for all these questions... So far I've been lvl3 missoning in EVE, manufacturing, research and sometimes mining. I never thought I will PvP. Now these two guys made it for me.... I need to see them killed.

5. How many times can I kill them with these kill rights?

6. What tank do I need? Thermal? Omni? etc...

Sorry for so many questions...

7. How do I find a buddy or two willing to give a hand somehow?
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-06-02 08:44:49 UTC
Speed Destiny wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Speed Destiny wrote:
How? Bounty? They already have few tens of millions each. But I also want to get involved somehow. To know I got my revenge.


Go to your character sheet and go to the killrights tab. You'll see your killrights to said ganker. On the right side there's 3 rectanles that from a square, click it. Now choose the option "set killright for everyone". Pick a modest price. Now if someone sees them in local they can activate your killright to shoot them without getting CONCORDDOKKEN.


DONE!

2000 ISK. I hope this is what somebody needs to pay to activate the kill right. I have no clue how this works. So they have 15 mins, then this kill right is over and done with?


2000 ISK is the equivalent of spit on the sidewalk. At least 1 million ISK. I have an alt that got killrights sold at 5 mil.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Speed Destiny
Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#12 - 2014-06-02 08:47:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Speed Destiny
Wait. I pay the kill right, or somebody else pay me that? I want to pay ok... I thought making it cheap so as anybody could buy it and kill them.

I make it 2 mils now for each...
Speed Destiny
Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#13 - 2014-06-02 08:51:32 UTC
So others pay to kill my prey?
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-06-02 09:00:11 UTC
Speed Destiny wrote:
Wait. I pay the kill right, or somebody else pay me that? I want to pay ok... I thought making it cheap so as anybody could buy it and kill them.

I make it 2 mils now for each...

No. They pay you whatever amount of ISK you put on the killright to use it.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Rannasha Kore
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-06-02 09:36:46 UTC
Make sure to not make the killright-price too low. If it is, a buddy or alt of the target will activate the killright, pay the tiny fee and kill the target while he's in a rookie ship. In your case, that'd allow the two gankers you're chasing to clear themselves of your killright for just 2000 isk each.

As was mentioned before, look up the security status of the targets. If it's below -5, they can be freely attacked anyway and the whole killright is pointless.
Speed Destiny
Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#16 - 2014-06-02 10:20:58 UTC
So, once I know what station they are into, how to I follow/track them once they are out? Are there any tips and tricks?
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#17 - 2014-06-02 11:46:54 UTC
Speed Destiny wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Speed Destiny wrote:
How? Bounty? They already have few tens of millions each. But I also want to get involved somehow. To know I got my revenge.


Go to your character sheet and go to the killrights tab. You'll see your killrights to said ganker. On the right side there's 3 rectanles that from a square, click it. Now choose the option "set killright for everyone". Pick a modest price. Now if someone sees them in local they can activate your killright to shoot them without getting CONCORDDOKKEN.


DONE!

2000 ISK. I hope this is what somebody needs to pay to activate the kill right. I have no clue how this works. So they have 15 mins, then this kill right is over and done with?


No, no, do not do this.

As a regular ganker I can tell you all I will do upon seeing that, is pay for it myself and clear it off.

Your best bet is to not set a price, and leave it available only to you. Then, you get some friends and go hunting. When you find him, you can activate the KR and then he goes suspect, leaving him vulnerable to attack from anyone.
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So, once I know what station they are into, how to I follow/track them once they are out? Are there any tips and tricks?

It's going to depend on what they are doing. Are they just running around in catalysts? Then it's best to follow them, see where they are trying to gank, and kill them when attempting it. This will mess up their gank and cost them their ships, for the best return on your KR.

If they're only occasional gankers, wait until they are running a mission and kill them when they are running it. You will want to look up a guide to ganking mission runners, and just ignore the parts where it tells you how to trick people into aggressing, because the KR handles that part.

Option 3 is you find a specific person / corp to make the KR available to. Ask any highsec wardec group, they will likely be interested.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#18 - 2014-06-02 12:16:41 UTC
It has been said several times, but first confirm if their sec status is below -5. Many gankers do not bother to repair their sec status, which makes killrights irrelevant.

If you do need to activate a killright, you do it through the selected item window when you are close to them in space. This gives them a suspect flag which makes them attackable by anyone.

As for the best way to go about hunting and killing them, it depends entirely on who they are and how they operate. We need more information to help you there.

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Speed Destiny
Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#19 - 2014-06-02 12:17:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Speed Destiny
What is high sec warded group and how do I get in touch with them?


For now, I equipped an Ospey Navy Issue and tracked them down in a 0.4 system. I am waiting for an hour 100km from that station and scanning with probes cloaked but so far nothing.


How do I follow them? I mean I see them on the grid and they warp out, how to I know where to warp out myself?

From the number of kills on the balleinc billboard they have exactly two kills each. And low security stats and wanted both.

I am waiting....

No ships... I will probably get some sleep then return to my locator agent and start again...

I keep getting a ghost ship on d-scan. I see it then when I get down the range it moved...
Speed Destiny
Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#20 - 2014-06-02 12:21:56 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
It has been said several times, but first confirm if their sec status is below -5. Many gankers do not bother to repair their sec status, which makes killrights irrelevant.

If you do need to activate a killright, you do it through the selected item window when you are close to them in space. This gives them a suspect flag which makes them attackable by anyone.

As for the best way to go about hunting and killing them, it depends entirely on who they are and how they operate. We need more information to help you there.


One is -9.9 and the other one is -9.8.

What more information? Names?
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