Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Lets face it, some of us have some garbage skills. People who have obssessive compulsive disorder like me cringe everytime they open up their character sheet and see mining drone operation or mining, refining, salvaging, etc.

This is especially true for people who buy and sell characters on the bazaar. There are some really good characters out there that could be trained into exceptional characters but someone in 2005 decided they wanted to try manufacturing. Ruined.

Please consider letting us clean up our skillsheets by deleting skills.

There are no garbage skills.

Also, learn to search.

you can already delete skills. ...Just let your clone lapse then have someone pod you over and over 'til you have no skills left. under no circumstances should you ever be refunded SP for you "deleting" your skills.

No skill is "garbage", quit whining, live with it.

I certainly don't think that people should be allowed to delete skills and get the SP refunded to place elsewhere, but I didn't see the OP asking for that.

Just simply deleting a skill (and losing the SP) I don't see any downside to, if a player wants to do that, Eve is a Sandbox after all.

I can see some valid reasons for wanting to do this besides OCD, most notably wanting to reduce clone upgrade costs. For example an alt with 1.2M LP, you might want to get rid of a few skills to return it to an Alpha Clone with sub 900K SP and never have to worry about being podded and forgetting to upgrade your clone again.

The suggestion about just getting podded over and over again is just stupid. You can't choose what skill gets deleted, it is always the highest tier skill. You probably want to keep your Cyno or basic cloaking skills and choose smaller skills that they never use, but would never get removed by podding until you have lost 100 of thousands, if not millions of useful SP that you wanted to keep.

Isnt it also staggering, how few of us beging for a completly useless feature only for their own epeen?

Also deleting skills would hit the Charakter Bazar, (cheapens it so its easier to sell it).

Yes there are. For example, Ice Harvesting is garbage skill if you also don't have Mining Barge. Back in the time when I still had access to rookie help, I didn't really knew what to focus on so I trained that skill to level 3. I don't ever want to train Industry to V so I ended up with wasted SPs and a useless skill cluttering up my character cheet.
Also not having Mining Barge as a prerequsite skill for Ice Harvesting is a design flaw, if you look at other similar skills (such as Cloning Facility Management).
If we can trash assets, why can't we trash our skillpoints and un-inject skills? The only reason why someone could consider this to be a bad idea is to restrict damage a hacker can cause to an account, but that can be limited by capping an amount of how many SP you could delete (let's say 256k every year).

Battleship isnt a prereq for large turrets, you cna train any size missile without training a ship, so making barges a prereq for ice harvesters doesnt make sense.

Also, its still not "garbage", since if at any point you CHOOSE to go and try industry, you already have ice-3

If you want to flat out delete skills, with no compensation or reimbursement, I'm fine with that, but I think it's a waste of dev effort to implement.

At no point, and in no way, should the ability to remap skill points ever be granted (even the proposed unlearning method). You don't want the skill. Fine delete it, I don't really care. But you never, ever get that skill training time back in any fashion.

Unless of course they eventually introduce an ice mining frigate. Which CCP Fozzie has expressed some interest in doing at some point in the future.