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Drone Interfacing Skill Nerf? Return 20 days of my sp.

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Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#1 - 2014-06-02 06:37:12 UTC
Wait a second. I just spent almost a ******* month training drone Interfacing 5 and now your reducing the bonus to 10%? Are you serious? Sure your increasing the damage of all drones to compensate, but I wouldn't have spent 20+days just for a 10% bonus that would apply to only 1 weapon system. I trained because I wanted a measurable increase in dps, equivalent to another drone damage amp, for my drone boats, which also happened to boost my dps of non drone boats by a fair amount as well. You say your doing things to make eve more friendly to new player, but in general your not. I dont see how making what was originally one skill into 2 or more is new player friendly..
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#2 - 2014-06-02 06:38:27 UTC
I have drone interfacing to 5 on 11 characters.
I am fine with the changes.

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Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#3 - 2014-06-02 06:40:38 UTC
When you do a fresh install of the EVE client, part of the terms and conditions that nobody ever reads states that the game is being continually rebalanced and by clicking "accept" you waive any right to compensation for this sort of thing.

(I did in fact just make that up, but if its not already in there it definitely should be)

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-06-02 06:51:19 UTC
*head explodes*
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#5 - 2014-06-02 06:55:38 UTC
Swiftstrike1 wrote:
When you do a fresh install of the EVE client, part of the terms and conditions that nobody ever reads states that the game is being continually rebalanced and by clicking "accept" you waive any right to compensation for this sort of thing.

(I did in fact just make that up, but if its not already in there it definitely should be)


As someone who does read them (at least for the major releases)....... there is a line in there something like that....
besides - OP - you've had the use of the skill for however long - if it's not more than 28d, then you should have kept an eye to devblogs and we have no sympathy

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.

Luscius Uta
#6 - 2014-06-02 07:10:17 UTC
I found the OP's tears delicious, will put some in my tea.

Workarounds are not bugfixes.

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-06-02 07:10:28 UTC
+20% damage / level was unbalanced compared to other skills.

+10% is more in line with, say, Sharpshooter that gives you +5% dmg/level for all turrets for a third of the training time.

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Dave Stark
#8 - 2014-06-02 07:14:01 UTC
Vincintius Agrippa wrote:
You say your doing things to make eve more friendly to new player, but in general your not. I dont see how making what was originally one skill into 2 or more is new player friendly..


it is, because it's increasing the dps of untrained drones (you know, new players who haven't trained many drone skills) while not raising the highest bar (that of veterans with "max" skills).
the gap between untrained, and trained drone dps has narrowed without creating a power creep.

it might be wise to stop, think, then post in the future.
Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#9 - 2014-06-02 07:29:32 UTC
Also, I cant even fly a supercarrier let alone a carrier, but the idea that a supercarier not being super is jut plain stupid. I'm sorry, but a supercarrier that can only deploy 10 fighter-bombers is just pathetic.
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Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#10 - 2014-06-02 07:32:49 UTC
Vincintius Agrippa wrote:
Also, I cant even fly a supercarrier let alone a carrier, but the idea that a supercarier not being super is jut plain stupid. I'm sorry, but a supercarrier that can only deploy 10 fighter-bombers is just pathetic.


No its inline with the other underwhelming Weaponsystems...

BTW, your Drones get stronger so you still have the same stats before Drone Interfacing V so i dont see the problems.
Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#11 - 2014-06-02 07:33:07 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Vincintius Agrippa wrote:
You say your doing things to make eve more friendly to new player, but in general your not. I dont see how making what was originally one skill into 2 or more is new player friendly..


it is, because it's increasing the dps of untrained drones (you know, new players who haven't trained many drone skills) while not raising the highest bar (that of veterans with "max" skills).
the gap between untrained, and trained drone dps has narrowed without creating a power creep.

it might be wise to stop, think, then post in the future.



Oh so wait, newbies have to train skills to do moar damage? Who'da thunk it.
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Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#12 - 2014-06-02 07:35:29 UTC
20 days for Drone Interfacing V? What?
Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#13 - 2014-06-02 07:37:28 UTC
Lephia DeGrande wrote:
Vincintius Agrippa wrote:
Also, I cant even fly a supercarrier let alone a carrier, but the idea that a supercarier not being super is jut plain stupid. I'm sorry, but a supercarrier that can only deploy 10 fighter-bombers is just pathetic.


No its inline with the other underwhelming Weaponsystems...

BTW, your Drones get stronger so you still have the same stats before Drone Interfacing V so i dont see the problems.


Point is, if i spent 20+ days training a skill and they reduce the time needed to train it after its been trained( as i doubt an extra 10% damage would justify 20 days of skill training, 7-12 max.) then I do have a reason to be upset. That sp couldve went to something else.
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Kasife Vynneve
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-06-02 07:40:04 UTC
Because having 20 of the things was the only thing that made them a super?
Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#15 - 2014-06-02 07:40:59 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Vincintius Agrippa wrote:
You say your doing things to make eve more friendly to new player, but in general your not. I dont see how making what was originally one skill into 2 or more is new player friendly..


it is, because it's increasing the dps of untrained drones (you know, new players who haven't trained many drone skills) while not raising the highest bar (that of veterans with "max" skills).
the gap between untrained, and trained drone dps has narrowed without creating a power creep.

it might be wise to stop, think, then post in the future.


I know I still get the same dps, thats not the point. Point is, I dont see a situation where the 10% bonus to drones stays at the current 20%'s 20+day training que.
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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#16 - 2014-06-02 07:42:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Samillian
This is Features and Ideas not Whine and Whinge.

10% is still well worth having especially as most level 5 weapons skills give you a 2 or 3% increase at most for the same training time.

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Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#17 - 2014-06-02 07:43:06 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
+20% damage / level was unbalanced compared to other skills.

+10% is more in line with, say, Sharpshooter that gives you +5% dmg/level for all turrets for a third of the training time.


That's not the point I was making. As long as dps says the same it's cool. Iths the training time im concerned with, as I doubt it will still be 20+ days.
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Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#18 - 2014-06-02 07:44:23 UTC
Samillian wrote:
This is Features and Ideas not Whine and Whinge.

10% is still well worth having especially as most level 5 weapons skills give you a 2 or 3% increase at most for the same training time.


I wish people would actually pay attention instead of outwardly attacking everyone that posts something.
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Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#19 - 2014-06-02 08:10:23 UTC
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
Swiftstrike1 wrote:
When you do a fresh install of the EVE client, part of the terms and conditions that nobody ever reads states that the game is being continually rebalanced and by clicking "accept" you waive any right to compensation for this sort of thing.

(I did in fact just make that up, but if its not already in there it definitely should be)


As someone who does read them (at least for the major releases)....... there is a line in there something like that....
besides - OP - you've had the use of the skill for however long - if it's not more than 28d, then you should have kept an eye to devblogs and we have no sympathy


First off, the last official thread on drone changes was x many of months ago and disappeared Infinity+ pages back in the f&i board. There hasn't been anything in the kronos expansion threads yet.

As for devblogs, When something important is announced I do read it. However unlike you I don't carry my pc to the bathroom while im sh+++++g on the toilet, nor do I sleep with it on my pillow. I also dont have the devblog ios app or the rss mobile feed.
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Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#20 - 2014-06-02 08:13:01 UTC
Luscius Uta wrote:
I found the OP's tears delicious, will put some in my tea.


Trolling someone who asks a serious question. Just wow. If you have nothing constructive or nice to say, dont post.
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