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Doreen Kaundur
#1 - 2014-06-01 11:37:08 UTC
OK, so I do security missions for Sisters of EVE.

The agent is in amarr space, in an amarr station...and she sends me out to kill Amarr NPCs. Each mission lowers my standings with Amarr. If I continue this, eventually my standing will be so low with Amarr that I will not be allowed into Amarr space to access this same agent.

So isnt this setup counterintuitive or am I missing something here?

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2014-06-01 11:44:25 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
OK, so I do security missions for Sisters of EVE.

The agent is in amarr space, in an amarr station...and she sends me out to kill Amarr NPCs. Each mission lowers my standings with Amarr. If I continue this, eventually my standing will be so low with Amarr that I will not be allowed into Amarr space to access this same agent.

So isnt this setup counterintuitive or am I missing something here?


OK, I don't run Sisters of EvE missions, and so this is a genuine question;

SOE actually give you missions against the Amarr navy?

That seems.... borked

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Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#3 - 2014-06-01 11:46:58 UTC
Just dont do them and you'll be fine.
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#4 - 2014-06-01 11:48:28 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
OK, so I do security missions for Sisters of EVE.

The agent is in amarr space, in an amarr station...and she sends me out to kill Amarr NPCs. Each mission lowers my standings with Amarr. If I continue this, eventually my standing will be so low with Amarr that I will not be allowed into Amarr space to access this same agent.

So isnt this setup counterintuitive or am I missing something here?


OK, I don't run Sisters of EvE missions, and so this is a genuine question;

SOE actually give you missions against the Amarr navy?

That seems.... borked


Not really, if you do a show info on the SoE corp and look at their standings the amarr empire have them set to -1 so it kinda makes sense you might have to shoot them in the face :P

And its pretty simple to just decline the amarr missions its what i do, you can decline 1 mission every 4 hours with any particular agent without penalty, however i tend to find that i get 2 amarr missions back to back so i end up taking a standings hit for declining the second, not the end of the world my standing with that agent is like 9.0 anyway
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#5 - 2014-06-01 11:59:12 UTC
Cypherous wrote:

Not really, if you do a show info on the SoE corp and look at their standings the amarr empire have them set to -1 so it kinda makes sense you might have to shoot them in the face :P


So... my minus standings with Amarr means I should expect to be attacked by their navy then.

Sadly, they appear to be on furlough as this does not happen

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Chick Sauce
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-06-01 12:14:48 UTC
Don't see a problem with it. Not all the corps in high-sec space should have great relationships with the faction, especially since SOE are spread out a bit. If I'm not mistaken they are also quite powerful and renown in the lore, so despite being allowed in Amarr space the faction itself might not look kindly on those who work for SOE.
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#7 - 2014-06-01 12:24:20 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Cypherous wrote:

Not really, if you do a show info on the SoE corp and look at their standings the amarr empire have them set to -1 so it kinda makes sense you might have to shoot them in the face :P


So... my minus standings with Amarr means I should expect to be attacked by their navy then.

Sadly, they appear to be on furlough as this does not happen


It actually does once your standing gets low enough, there is a difference between a massive entity you want to disrupt and that 1 pod pilot who is a minor annoyance, hence why you need to have a -5 standing to be attacked by their navy in their space
Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
#8 - 2014-06-01 13:12:11 UTC
The Sisters ruined my standings before I realized what was happening. Only accepting missions against pirates or mercs will stop the bleeding, but the damage is done. The Gallente almost hate me. So be it. I almost hate them too.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#9 - 2014-06-01 13:27:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
You can always run the SoE epic arc and choose Amarr for the Dagan mission to boost your standings with them without negatively affecting your standings with the other empire factions. The SoE arc can be redone every 3 months, IIRC it's around an 8% boost to the faction you team up with for Dagan (possibly dependent on social skills).

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#10 - 2014-06-01 17:26:25 UTC
Cypherous wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Cypherous wrote:

Not really, if you do a show info on the SoE corp and look at their standings the amarr empire have them set to -1 so it kinda makes sense you might have to shoot them in the face :P


So... my minus standings with Amarr means I should expect to be attacked by their navy then.

Sadly, they appear to be on furlough as this does not happen


It actually does once your standing gets low enough, there is a difference between a massive entity you want to disrupt and that 1 pod pilot who is a minor annoyance, hence why you need to have a -5 standing to be attacked by their navy in their space


Good point

Time to ramp up to being a major pain lol

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Adunh Slavy
#11 - 2014-06-01 17:48:34 UTC
Cypherous wrote:

It actually does once your standing gets low enough, there is a difference between a massive entity you want to disrupt and that 1 pod pilot who is a minor annoyance, hence why you need to have a -5 standing to be attacked by their navy in their space



Diplomacy skill, I think it is, can mitigate that some what.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#12 - 2014-06-01 17:51:20 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Cypherous wrote:

It actually does once your standing gets low enough, there is a difference between a massive entity you want to disrupt and that 1 pod pilot who is a minor annoyance, hence why you need to have a -5 standing to be attacked by their navy in their space

Diplomacy skill, I think it is, can mitigate that some what.


I can assure you I have no diplomacy at all

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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#13 - 2014-06-01 17:59:35 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Cypherous wrote:

It actually does once your standing gets low enough, there is a difference between a massive entity you want to disrupt and that 1 pod pilot who is a minor annoyance, hence why you need to have a -5 standing to be attacked by their navy in their space



Diplomacy skill, I think it is, can mitigate that some what.


Yes there are ways to mitigate it but eventually its possible that only the standings grind can help you :)
voetius
Grundrisse
#14 - 2014-06-01 18:19:18 UTC

The thing you are missing Doreen is that SoE faction is allied to the Gallente and faction missions are vs. Amarr

This is true for the Apanake agent, which is the one I assume you are referring to, and used to be true for the Gicodel agent back before the removal of agent divisions and is still true for the Osmon agent.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2014-06-01 21:05:38 UTC
Besides training up the Diplomacy skill, those with bad standings should check out 'The Plan'.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#16 - 2014-06-02 02:53:52 UTC
Had to train diplomacy to 5 in order to get Thukker to let me work for them. Was living in their space at the time, so why not get standings up. Gods, they hate everyone but Minmatar, sour *******. Running their storyline missions is a great way to make the empires dislike you. Hell, I think even the Minmatar give me strange looks when they see my Thukker standings.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#17 - 2014-06-02 02:55:42 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Had to train diplomacy to 5 in order to get Thukker to let me work for them. Was living in their space at the time, so why not get standings up. Gods, they hate everyone but Minmatar, sour *******. Running their storyline missions is a great way to make the empires dislike you. Hell, I think even the Minmatar give me strange looks when they see my Thukker standings.


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Doomheim
#18 - 2014-06-02 02:57:48 UTC
Chick Sauce wrote:
Don't see a problem with it. Not all the corps in high-sec space should have great relationships with the faction, especially since SOE are spread out a bit. If I'm not mistaken they are also quite powerful and renown in the lore, so despite being allowed in Amarr space the faction itself might not look kindly on those who work for SOE.


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