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NPC escorts for hire ?

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#41 - 2014-06-01 12:01:49 UTC
DHuncan wrote:
I think we all agree


You think incorrectly

Please stop it with the "we all think this" type rants

We don't all think anything the same way

Also; hire some mercs if you are that scared of monsters under your bed

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Chick Sauce
Doomheim
#42 - 2014-06-01 12:09:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Chick Sauce
Hello,

Due to the nature of corporations and wardecs, it is advised you only create a corp if you are willing to fight with it and/or use it solely as a communicative gathering point. If you live in high-sec you should have an alt, out of corp, who does your ISK making. Or a group of alts.

Your characters in the corp itself should be willing to do nothing but PVP for weeks if needed. If you don't want to PVP, place a useless alt in corp for access to chats/hangars and keep your ISK makers outside still.

The problem is that players want to be in corp AND do PVE with those characters. They are giving you a suitable option to PVE in peace, you just need to take advantage of the mechanics.

A group of 20 PVE'ers could place an alt with 0 training in corp each. These alts are how they communicate and organize things as well as exchange things through hangars and the like. If they are wardecced every PVE'er can still PVE. They in fact cannot be affected by wardecs.

People don't THINK, that is the issue with wardecs and highsec.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#43 - 2014-06-01 12:41:35 UTC
I'll bite and say it if it hadn't already been...

Most ships in Eve do have what are called drone bays. Those are for what are called drones...

You get where I'm going with this, don't you?

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#44 - 2014-06-01 12:55:00 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
I'll bite and say it if it hadn't already been...

Most ships in Eve do have what are called drone bays. Those are for what are called drones...

You get where I'm going with this, don't you?


How dare you imply that the OP should spend time and money in learning to protect himself instead of expecting the harsh universe of EVE to do it for him!!!
Cyrek Ohaya
Blazing Sun Group
#45 - 2014-06-01 13:01:13 UTC
You can't hire player "mercs", you have a bigger chance to get blown by them than actual pirates.
DHuncan
Long John Silver.
#46 - 2014-06-01 13:28:18 UTC
I nottice some people doesnt know how to read. Or dont want to understand. Or they see in peril their twisted way to have fun.

I wonder would CCP make a better game knowing it would make less money?

Would CCP nerf the game if they knew it would make more money?

Was Titanic the best piece of cinema art of all times? I may be out dated but still one of most profitables sure it was.

How many pew pew video games there is?

Then if there are a million and ten pew pew video games out there, why is EvE different? I will tell you, for the 90% of content that is not pew pew. Sorry to wake you up this abruptly but EvE is not about pew pew solely. The mass that has being missleaded to think that way need to know they are the biomass that pay the bills.

I dont assume I am right. I am aware -despite my implants- I am human and therefor I may fail. I am not acting like some who seems to posses the absolute truth and even dare to speak on behalf of CCP or any gury who created EvE and telling us like a dogma what is EvE about and what is not. I only share my idea and fight for keeping and enhancing what I have and dream of what it could be. I am glad some people out there share some points of view.

For 50 millions many big corporations may ruin small corporations 'for fun'. For pride, for courage, for honour I want the right to rise the bet to one or two billions.

What did you say about CODE?

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#47 - 2014-06-01 13:29:11 UTC
Cypherous wrote:
Sobaan Tali wrote:
I'll bite and say it if it hadn't already been...

Most ships in Eve do have what are called drone bays. Those are for what are called drones...

You get where I'm going with this, don't you?


How dare you imply that the OP should spend time and money in learning to protect himself instead of expecting the harsh universe of EVE to do it for him!!!


Oh, I dare, good sir. I dare.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#48 - 2014-06-01 13:29:24 UTC
DHuncan wrote:
Pix Severus wrote:
If you need help, hire some player mercs, giving your enemy a PvE encounter isn't going to hurt them beyond boring them a little.


Hm I preffer to put my isk in someone that I know is going to fight for me. I dont trust mercs.



Noone fights for you if you are paying them. They are fighting for the isk.

Merc corps fight for two things

Isk and reputation: Merc corps dont go back on contracts as long as you pay them because if they did noone else would hire them..


Also If you are paying isk for someone to fight for you they are mercs.
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#49 - 2014-06-01 13:32:57 UTC
DHuncan wrote:

Then if there are a million and ten pew pew video games out there, why is EvE different? I will tell you, for the 90% of content that is not pew pew. Sorry to wake you up this abruptly but EvE is not about pew pew solely. The mass that has being missleaded to think that way need to know they are the biomass that pay the bills.


Now if only you were correct, this game is almost entirely PvP, not always of the pew pew variety, you would be surprised how little you can do without in some way interacting with another player trying to dominate their section of EVE, even something as mundane as mining and selling things on the market is linked to PvP, and by that i mean player vs player, you're not the only person in this universe and even the act of selling or buying items forces you to interact with other players, PvE does not account for 90% of the game despite what you may think :)

So yes its not all about pew pew but it is almost entirely about competing with other players, if you want a game where you can do all of this without interacting with others i suggest the X series of games :P
Solecist Project
#50 - 2014-06-01 13:33:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
So because people decide to put themselves into a disadvantage
compared to larger groups, they deserve candy?

Nope.

Oh and PvP stands for Player vs. Player.
"Combat" is only a part of PvP.

Glad I could educate you.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

DHuncan
Long John Silver.
#51 - 2014-06-01 14:05:02 UTC
Cypherous wrote:
DHuncan wrote:

Then if there are a million and ten pew pew video games out there, why is EvE different? I will tell you, for the 90% of content that is not pew pew. Sorry to wake you up this abruptly but EvE is not about pew pew solely. The mass that has being missleaded to think that way need to know they are the biomass that pay the bills.


Now if only you were correct, this game is almost entirely PvP, not always of the pew pew variety, you would be surprised how little you can do without in some way interacting with another player trying to dominate their section of EVE, even something as mundane as mining and selling things on the market is linked to PvP, and by that i mean player vs player, you're not the only person in this universe and even the act of selling or buying items forces you to interact with other players, PvE does not account for 90% of the game despite what you may think :)

So yes its not all about pew pew but it is almost entirely about competing with other players, if you want a game where you can do all of this without interacting with others i suggest the X series of games :P


I am not saying it is not PvP. I am not even saying there is not pew pew factor and a very important one. I am saying just what I am saying. All that about I wan to pee in my pants while a shake in a station in fear and the blah blah you hear is not me but the porr understanding abilities of thos you can read here.

Again, I am talking about ballancing, I am talking about having a chance to also pew pew (not running from it, but having a tool so can also do that) without the need to be in the larger corp available either you fit in there or not. I am taling about the corporations need to be just bigger and bigger as the only way to participate (again, instead of running or hidding).

What did you say about CODE?

Solecist Project
#52 - 2014-06-01 14:09:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
DHuncan wrote:
Again, I am talking about ballancing, I am talking about having a chance to also pew pew (not running from it, but having a tool so can also do that) without the need to be in the larger corp available either you fit in there or not. I am taling about the corporations need to be just bigger and bigger as the only way to participate (again, instead of running or hidding).
What about all those smaller corps who are successfull at "pewpew" and thus completely nullify what you are talking about?

You are too narrow minded. Open your eyes for those who prove that you are wrong,
because you are. There is no unfairness involved at all. Nature simply works that way.

More people who flock together are more successfull than less people who flock together.

Still, the smaller group can compete against bigger groups simply by outsmarting them
and using guerilla tactics.


The problem, as usual, is the user.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#53 - 2014-06-01 14:12:43 UTC
Hiring NPC Escorts is a WiS feature I could stand behind.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-06-01 14:12:56 UTC
OP, you haven't thought it through.

The PVP crowd will likely outnumber the PVEer in a typical situation. These larger number of PVPers can each also hire your NPC escorts. In fact, you are advocating a solution that gives PVPers more guns and damage. You will be worse off than you are now.

Think of these NPC escorts as drones. All you're advocating for is more drones.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

DHuncan
Long John Silver.
#55 - 2014-06-01 14:25:14 UTC
Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.

What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers.

What did you say about CODE?

Solecist Project
#56 - 2014-06-01 14:31:38 UTC
DHuncan wrote:
Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.

What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers.

How about we just all come after you,
as you are annoying and unable to properly express yourself
and don't understand that there is no problem that needs to be fixed in the first place?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

DHuncan
Long John Silver.
#57 - 2014-06-01 14:36:11 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
DHuncan wrote:
Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.

What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers.

How about we just all come after you,
as you are annoying and unable to properly express yourself
and don't understand that there is no problem that needs to be fixed in the first place?


Supongo que ignoras otros idiomas que yo, sin embargo, domino a la perfeccion. Asi que entre lo que tu puedes hablar y lo que yo puedo hablar, necesariamente tendremos que disponer de mis conocimientos, por la insuficiencia de los tuyos. Creo que deberias callar a este respecto.

Eres tu quien, de forma tan arrogante, niega u otorga como si tuvieses autoridad para tal menester. Eres tu quien insulta, quien asume erroneamente lo peor, quien no se conforma con un comentario sino que insiste aportando nada. No soy yo quien molesta, eres tu.

What did you say about CODE?

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#58 - 2014-06-01 14:37:35 UTC
DHuncan wrote:
Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.

What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers.


High sec piracy is not griefing.

You are a bear wanting CCP to protect you because you dont want to put in the effort to go hire some mercs.
DHuncan
Long John Silver.
#59 - 2014-06-01 14:39:20 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
DHuncan wrote:
Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.

What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers.


High sec piracy is not griefing.

You are a bear wanting CCP to protect you because you dont want to put in the effort to go hire some mercs.


This.

What did you say about CODE?

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#60 - 2014-06-01 14:42:43 UTC
DHuncan wrote:


This.


The answer is no.

Go hire those mercs or do it yourself.