Science & Industry

So there are these pos modules that build t1/ t2 ships but they have no or little advantage compare to a station

Stats

small ship assembly array
medium ship assembly array
large ship assembly array
10 manufacturing slots small 5slots medium 3slots large
Base time multiplier: 0.75
Base material multiplier: 1

Advanced small ship assembly array
Advanced medium ship assembly array
Advanced large ship assembly array
1 manufacturing slot:
Base time multiplier: 0.75
Base material multiplier: 1.1

Benefit
-You can build in area without manufacturing slots
-Places without stations
-Building goes faster

Downside
-You need 10% more material to build. (advanced arrays)
-You need to pay posfuel
-You can't use courrier contracts to get material
-Takes more time to opperate
-Needs hauling before you can sell
-Needs to invest into a POS(which can die)

Shouldn't it be the other way around? That building at a pos should give benefits towards builders. Does not have to be huge but should at least compensate for the posfuel.

And they look like shipyards made to construct 1 kind of ship. So should be better then the "build everthing" lines of a station. Might take a bit more time to compensate for such perfection

So I propose:

Ship assembly arrays
10 manufacturing slots small 5slots medium 3slots large
Base time multiplier: 1.5
Base material multiplier: 0.95

Advanced large ship assembly array
1 manufacturing slot:
Base time multiplier: 1.5
Base material multiplier: 0.95

Let me know what you think.

With your proposed changes you would make more ISK/unit in POSes (which is a worthless metric), but less ISK/hour (which is all that really matters). What you're suggesting would be a large nerf to the usefulness of POS arrays for all serious ship producers.

Okey they 50% longer build time might be a bit harsh for T1 ships. But I know that building time has never ever been an issue when building sub caps.

Example
Harbinger
Manufacture time approx 3 hours
Cost approx 30mil

You build harbs and in a pos with the 0.75 time bonus

1 harbinger takes 3 hours. That becomes 2hours15minutes. That is 10.66 a day
so if you build with 10 blueprints at the same time that is 100 with the time bonus.
Those 100 a day more give about 10% profit each at best. That is 300mil profit on 100ships or 318mil on 106 ships to be exact.

3hours +50% bulding time is 4.5 harbs a hour or 5.33 a day
If you would build 50 a day which have 5% more profit you have 225mil profit on 50ships or 238mil on 53.

So what you are saying is true if:
You have a turn over more then 2bil approx a day
You build non-stop every day
And able to sell everthing within these time lines.

If you really at the point that you have a turnover of 3bil a day. Logistics of minerals and selling is a way bigger issue then the time mulitplier of an assembly array. The time bonus is only usefull for the big builders and not the other 99% of eve.

Big problem is that it is self defeating. Soon the sell prices for ships will be based upon the material cost at a POS. So you'd soon be back to 10% on those 53 and have lovely profit of what? 159M?

Actually a bit less since your % is from a smaller actual amount so maybe 150M. Then there's the fuel cost to consider so lose another 6M per day minimum.

The POS arrays were introduced into the game back before 0.0 was as populated as it is now (maybe even before outposts could be built?) Back then, they at least gave you some opportunity to build stuff in your local area. Now that you can just throw an outpost down, they're kinda useless, I agree.