EVE New Citizens Q&A

This is pretty much the whole procedure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4sYD0PnqxA

The promotions will come automatically as you hand in missions and will carry sizeable faction standings adjustments with them - looks like each successive rank provides an adjustment of about .42 + 2*rank percent.

My first "lap" was 12-13x level 3 missions, took about one hour, and provided 3 promotions on handin. The second lap was a mix of level 3s and level 4s, took 2-3 hours, and also provided 3 promotions.

Then my addition to his point was you don't even have to run the missions. If your faction is at a high tier, just joining FW, going in to militia chat and asking if anyone is selling mission standing turnins is usually enough. They will then fleet you up and you pay them per mission turnin, for which you get faction and half the LP. At tier 4, for L5 missions this is close to 40k LP a pop for half the mission reward, which you then can buy items and sell to convert back to ISK.

I am sure there are lots of corps that exist to do this because it is a win/win thing; the mission runners get to immediately convert half their LP directly to ISK.

I'd start by asking in militia chat. Expect it to run about 40-50M ISK per turnin for L4 missions at tier 4; about 1200-1500 ISK/LP was common last time I did this. Some do it for less. I've seen it as low as 900.

Just remember, it will trash the opposing faction and the pirates factions as your empire goes up through promotions.

Specifically with regard to FW missions, it absolutely should work.

The faction standing adjustments do not come from the mission completion. They come from the promotion. The promotions, IIRC, are tied to your corporation standing. So, unless corp standing cannot be shared (and I'm pretty sure they can, IIRC plenty of people grind up their alt's corp standings for refining, etc., in precisely this way), what they described should work, as the promotion itself is granting the faction standing, and is actually from an independent source.

So, shared mission grant corporation standing, getting a full point of corporation standing yields a promotion, and a promotion yields faction standing.

Incorrect. In fact, Pauli-quote "not even wrong" :)

This is an *extremely* common and well known method. The empire standings gains come from promotion; you share the corp standings gains too, which is why most people do this (to get to corp standing 5.0 to open up L4 FW missions).



Definitely, and Security Connections for the FW turnin/missioning route. Take them all to III or IV before doing this.


Edit:



slipped by a more complete explanation :)

Doesn't matter what you all say, the OP stated that his character is strictly a Trade character. I still stand by my original statement that doing Factional Warfare for him is a no-go.

Also since you all were so busy doing a gang bang on me about how FW players gain Faction standing you missed the main point of my reply :

The fastest way to gain Faction standing for a non-combat character is to do the Data Center Tag missions. Don't need any combat skills or combat ship, just ISK.



DMC

i came to eve for the sole purpose of trading on the mineral market, i started trading trit and pye, mexallon, isogen and zydrine from sobaseki station, its only 1 jump to 3 different regions so i just podded from station to station where i traded for a few days or weeks, i didnt train anything for 3 months, i didnt work on standing or trying to reduce my tax or broker fees, i didnt feel that i needed any of it to trade, i dont haul i just right click and sell.

when it was pointed out to me (from a hisec ganker who popt me) i started training with his advice and started building my corp/faction standing by doing distribution missions. to my mind level 3 distribution missions are the fastest way to build corp standing and every 16 missions done gives you a story line mission to build faction standing.

the rest they say is history.

eve wont be won by pilots in space shooting each other, its the traders who will win eve. economic warfare, market pvp, and the wonderful world of OCD and spreadsheets

my 2 isk worth

It's actually almost the same mechanism. You're buying tags for turnin, I'm buying completed missions from mission runners. The difference is, I can do it all in a chat room, I do not even have to undock (last time I did them you had to actually go to the data center sites, and they had a turnin limit for some of them), and it's faster up to a limit (probably between 7 and 8) for empire faction - you could easily do 0-8 in 1-2 hours.

The disadvantages are it trashes the other factions and until you sell the LP off it is more expensive.

But there's no way it is slower than data center agents, and if you get lucky when there's a lot of mission runners finishing up, it could theoretically take you from 0-8 in less than 15 minutes.

First off, it's not the same. There is basically no time spent turning in tags at Data Centers.

Obviously you didn't do the Data Centers correctly if you 'Hit a bump' and had to do something else to continue turning in tags. Having the Social skill trained to level 3 is a noob mistake at best. Not training up the Connections skill just compounds that mistake as well.

Now if any 'Bump' was actually encountered, it could have easily been bypassed just by turning in tags to the Allied Faction which gives derived Faction standing increase to the original Faction. Like I said, you obviously didn't do it correctly.

I understand you guys are all gung ho for FW, however you seem reluctant to acknowledge the fact that just joining FW automatically makes you an enemy target to others. Definitely not good for a newly created low skilled non combat trade/market character. Whereas if just doing Data Center tags it will take quite a while to become an enemy target.

Anyway, I don't appreciate the sarcastic troll replies or the insinuations that I don't know anything about Faction standings. Any more troll remarks will be reported.

FYI - I wrote the book on how to repair negative Faction standings which can also be used to boost positive Faction standings. 'The Plan' has been confirmed by the majority of the Eve Online Community to be the easiest and quickest way. In fact I have all 4 major Empires well over +7.00 Faction standing with all minor Factions over +5.00 standing. The only negative standings I have are with Pirate Factions which I will soon be fixing.

So stop trying to imply that I don't know anything about Faction standings.


DMC

Wow, I never knew about COSMOS... most excellent!