Warfare & Tactics

a) Kehjari was the opposite of a big derp. It was the most effective system defence the militia has run for a long time. Unfortunately DUST gifted the Gallente 20% system control that we had no control over and that proved decisive.

b) No idea why your pilots would be frustrated with the doctrines. They were very successful and held the field all through Saturday and into Sunday evening.

Through Saturday up to the point we stopped the op DUST moved from 0% to 20% in your favour. When we called it you were on 92% and DUST was sitting at 20%; we had no reason to expect it to do anything other than follow the trend and give you another 5% in the next few hours, after which we would be into your uncontested AU tz. If you take DUST out of the equation there is certainly no way we would have called off the defence at 72%.

It might be said it was an error of judgement to call the op at 92% when there was a possibility that DUST would start to swing the other way (as it in fact did). On the other hand, carrying on an operation when ongoing success or failure was dependent on a factor completely outside our control and trending against us was not appealing. So I'm comfortable saying that DUST was the decisive factor. If DUST was not a thing it is unlikely the system would have flipped and certain it would not have flipped until late Monday at the earliest.

Edit

To add some numbers to that:

In the 36 hours of fighting between 1500 on Saturday and the defence being called off system control moved from 56% contested to 92% contested, a 36% swing.

Of the 36% swing, 20% came from DUST, 16% came from action in space.

Of the 16% that came from action in space 10% came from the AU tz and only 6% came from plex losses during contested periods.

Without DUST the system would have been at 72% on Monday morning c. 0300 eve time with 16% progress made and 28% still to take to flip it. Taking DUST out would have made the situation look very different to us and, I suspect, to you as well.

You misunderstand how DUST contested percentage works. it affects total number of points required to put the system vulnerable, not the contested percentage itself.

Moving from 56% control at 0% DUST (1680 out of 3000 required) to 92% at 20% DUST (2200 of 2400 required) is different from moving from 1680/3000 to 2760/3000.

This is also easily seen on Dotlan, which shows not only the total points towards contested but also the threshold for vulnerable.

But hey. you want to bail early, no problem from our end. Made the extra 4 hours of plexing rather boring though - had to gank an ice miner and listen to his whining in local to keep amused.

Must be different timezones then. We broke it out early afternoon USTZ around the low 80s, and it took us all the way home from there.

Look forward to seeing your counter next go-around.

Mostly just a moral victory and allows us to free some assets up that were stuck there. Don't plan on moving back anytime soon.

http://justk.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23590082

^ Uncontested AU TZ.

I have no idea at the moment. It will happen one day but no rush.


Nullsec with the CFC/Goons is a lot better than I expected and the people are mostly really cool.
I am enjoying the relaxed atmosphere for now.

That ice miner was quite upset. What the hell was he thinking mining in a system with about 50 people in it?

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