Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Security tags make belt ratting in low (0.1 and 0.2) much more lucrative than it is in NPC null. Each one is worth about 25-30m, and are a guaranteed drop. Couple this with Mordu ships, and belt ratting in low will actually be reasonable, as you have chances to find clone soliders/mordus/hauler spawn+meta mining upgrades.

While I'm sure we could go back and forth about the relative dangers of npc null vs lowsec, it's not all that relevant here. The lower security status doesn't help most of the time as anomalies are inconsistent, and not all NPC null has good LP stores for pirate missions. With the changes already slated for next patch, lowsec is already slowly getting to where it should be.

But most of this probably belongs in another topic tbh. Just trying to raise the idea that more unique resources spread across security statuses is better than making the same resources available via different methods. Plex loot has already taken a rather large hit over the past few months, and inevitably, not only will the market be flooded from two streams with already tepid demand, one of the two methods to get the modules will be better/more consistent/more easily exploited. The whole point of teiricide was to level the playing ground and let each ship offer something - the same should be done with security status. Plexing generates lots of content and is working more or less.

Come up with another unique resource that players will want or need, and then re-cook this idea. Such as...
A)Pirate Drugs
B)Pirate Mining Ships (Okay, I know, this is dumb, its thinking aloud, ok?)
C)New Pirate Implants
D)Pirate Drones (Serpentis Ogre? Oh hell yeah!)

I very much agree with adding this to new items, but I'm also not in a position to speculate on the nature of a new item of this type sadly, consider faction modules a placeholder, though I do feel it works, I see the concerns. Of note: This should actually cause an increase in exploration, as the BPCs required to produce this should still come from exploration sites.

Total control of a region should be extremely difficult and/or inconsistent, as mentioned before, a lack of ability to repair these means that it's quite possible to whittle them down by contesting timers with non-standard tactics. Yes, you'd have something to farm, but you'd need to work extremely hard to keep it under control in a totally exclusive manner, and I for one have no problem with any group who can do this, doing so.

Can't get behind this. There are things that already exist in game that could be used as components for faction modules.
Once again the Pirate Materials form data sites come to mind.

This concept just seems to be exploitable.

The biggest concern here really is how do you realistically keep Null-Sec out of the Honey Pot?
You just have to look at Faction Warfare as a very clear example of this, now you want to really bring what boils down to a blend of Incursion / Faction Warfare / Ghost Sites to a wider audience.

Don't get me wrong I do believe that those who aren't involved in FW do deserve some interesting mechanic they can be involved in outside of Anoms, Complex and Gate Camps ... but this I see either not being worth enough to bother with, or quite simply all of the smaller groups getting almost instantly shutout but the Pirate Alliances and Null-Sec Blocs.

I mean we already have Moons that anything even half-valuable is exclusively held by Null-Sec Blocs, PI for the most part defaults to any of the major powers ranging from Pirate Alliances down to FW Alliances for the valuable Planets. Leaving absolutely nothing for the smaller more independent groups.

And sure I get it, cut-throat EVE mentality blah blah blah... but the issue is always a case of Numbers and Power Projection that secures valuable resources - so I would argue ANY new mechanic / income should be focused instead of deliberately reducing that to smaller groups so tactics and skills beat pure numbers.

That doesn't guarantee smaller groups will succeed, but I'm just thinking here in terms of Wormholes rather than Faction Warfare mentality about how open these areas are to give them an equal footing and increase conflict that way.

Just an idea.

The pools system specifically breaks the exact functionality you're talking about, as you might be able to control the pool for your home system and even the region into one system, but beyond that you'll be hard pressed to get full control, and maintain it without living on-or-near the item, as using it requires that you be there constantly. There's purposely little-to-no practical value in controlling these from a distance.

Given some serious thought using lessons learned this could be a great asset for LS in both driving conflict and putting money in the pockets of LS residents.

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