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Dev blog: Coming In Kronos, Part II

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2014-05-29 15:08:27 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
The Kronos release will be published on June 3rd, 2014, and with this release we will see an enormous amount of new features, improvements, and exciting changes.

CCP Seagull, Senior Producer of EVE Online, presents in her second Kronos overview blog more of the brilliant content coming with Kronos: a new Typhoon model, Mordu’s Legion contraband sites in low-security space, low slots for Freighters and Jump Freighters, improved Mac client due to a Cider update, and a lot more.

Check out CCP Seagull's latest dev blog Coming In Kronos, Part II and get ready for Kronos!

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Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#2 - 2014-05-29 15:20:06 UTC
First?

edit: yay...

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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#3 - 2014-05-29 15:23:50 UTC
yay for Mac updates!
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#4 - 2014-05-29 15:25:09 UTC
Question regarding the Mac client:

The present TQ client uses about 1.5 gig memory. Ive been on Sisi, and the client is using 3 gig memory there. I'm wondering if I'll still be able to run 3 clients like I do now. I would hate to lose that capability to just get some pretty lights.

Is this going to stay that way? Or is it temporary because you have not yet flipped all the "Optimize" switches when you built the client?

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Mashie Saldana
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#5 - 2014-05-29 15:29:42 UTC
The Typhoon is looking very nice now. Can't really call it a dustbin any longer though...

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#6 - 2014-05-29 15:32:01 UTC
pretty! lots and lots of pretty!

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CCP Vertex
C C P
C C P Alliance
#7 - 2014-05-29 15:39:21 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Question regarding the Mac client:

The present TQ client uses about 1.5 gig memory. Ive been on Sisi, and the client is using 3 gig memory there. I'm wondering if I'll still be able to run 3 clients like I do now. I would hate to lose that capability to just get some pretty lights.

Is this going to stay that way? Or is it temporary because you have not yet flipped all the "Optimize" switches when you built the client?


Hi Vincent,

This is actually not quite the case, the client is using the same memory footprint (~1.5GB) as before. When we upgraded the Cider version for the Mac client we received improved memory reporting that Transgaming has been working on over the last few months. This new method gives us a more accurate view of how much virtual memory space is being used which includes system reserve space, OS, driver and stack space for non-windows threads,

So in essence this will not change the amount of clients you can run previous to the Kronos release.

**CCP Vertex  |  Senior Development Manager ** | @CCP_Vertex
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#8 - 2014-05-29 15:41:36 UTC
Thanks. I was hoping for something like that.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#9 - 2014-05-29 15:43:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
So-- Mordus raiding Guristas sites all through lowsec, not just Guristas/Caldari lowsec? Huh. :x

Also, "This will in turn lead to further new sites being revealed for all those..." makes me go, '?' Looking forward to tomorrow's devblog!

Also also, this sort of plot-related development is slightly head-scratching when there's no news build-up or news development until patch day. If you could free the lore/news guys from the salt mines long enough to start things bubbling when you start development instead of when you start deployment... ;)

Edit: ...alternatively, if the Mercury team is still active...

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Ali Aras
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#10 - 2014-05-29 15:52:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ali Aras
Important question: you talk about mac client updates. As a mac client user, this makes me happy, especially:
Quote:

Support for Retina displays.

I'm left wondering, though-- did the mac client "freeze" bug get fixed? *Will* it ever get fixed, or are mac players always going to be at risk of finding themselves unable to control their clients at the worst possible moment? (ATXI, on a station in null in a JF, as a member of a bomber wing...)

e: for anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, the mac client will exhibit a total UI freeze periodically. You can't move the cursor or control the UI, but you are still in space in whatever configuration you were before it happened. The only solution is to force-quit; when you do so, your client will disconnect and you will ewarp as normal if you can.

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Sven Viko VIkolander
In space we are briefly free
#11 - 2014-05-29 15:53:40 UTC
Dang I want the dev blog about the new low sec sites now Lol
Really looking forward to the amount of love low sec is getting in Kronos
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2014-05-29 15:55:57 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
...alternatively, if the Mercury team is still active...

Slightly off topic, but yes, the ISD Mercury team is indeed alive and active!

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#13 - 2014-05-29 16:13:53 UTC
Sven Viko VIkolander wrote:
Dang I want the dev blog about the new low sec sites now Lol
Really looking forward to the amount of love low sec is getting in Kronos

When it goes live, fly to one and check it out. What's the worst that could possibly happen?

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Photosynth
#14 - 2014-05-29 16:20:09 UTC
Ali Aras wrote:
Important question: you talk about mac client updates. As a mac client user, this makes me happy, especially:
Quote:

Support for Retina displays.

I'm left wondering, though-- did the mac client "freeze" bug get fixed? *Will* it ever get fixed, or are mac players always going to be at risk of finding themselves unable to control their clients at the worst possible moment? (ATXI, on a station in null in a JF, as a member of a bomber wing...)

e: for anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, the mac client will exhibit a total UI freeze periodically. You can't move the cursor or control the UI, but you are still in space in whatever configuration you were before it happened. The only solution is to force-quit; when you do so, your client will disconnect and you will ewarp as normal if you can.

I hope so. For some reason I've been spared the freeze bug as you describe for many months. But I have been getting a different type of freeze bug. The computer will lock up, everything, except the mouse. It will persist like that for 5 to 50 seconds, then start working again.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#15 - 2014-05-29 16:31:34 UTC
Can't wait for the new Mac client!

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Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
#16 - 2014-05-29 16:56:28 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Ali Aras wrote:
Important question: you talk about mac client updates. As a mac client user, this makes me happy, especially:
Quote:

Support for Retina displays.

I'm left wondering, though-- did the mac client "freeze" bug get fixed? *Will* it ever get fixed, or are mac players always going to be at risk of finding themselves unable to control their clients at the worst possible moment? (ATXI, on a station in null in a JF, as a member of a bomber wing...)

e: for anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, the mac client will exhibit a total UI freeze periodically. You can't move the cursor or control the UI, but you are still in space in whatever configuration you were before it happened. The only solution is to force-quit; when you do so, your client will disconnect and you will ewarp as normal if you can.

I hope so. For some reason I've been spared the freeze bug as you describe for many months. But I have been getting a different type of freeze bug. The computer will lock up, everything, except the mouse. It will persist like that for 5 to 50 seconds, then start working again.


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CCP Vertex
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2014-05-29 16:56:52 UTC
Ali Aras wrote:
Important question: you talk about mac client updates. As a mac client user, this makes me happy, especially:
Quote:

Support for Retina displays.

I'm left wondering, though-- did the mac client "freeze" bug get fixed? *Will* it ever get fixed, or are mac players always going to be at risk of finding themselves unable to control their clients at the worst possible moment? (ATXI, on a station in null in a JF, as a member of a bomber wing...)

e: for anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, the mac client will exhibit a total UI freeze periodically. You can't move the cursor or control the UI, but you are still in space in whatever configuration you were before it happened. The only solution is to force-quit; when you do so, your client will disconnect and you will ewarp as normal if you can.


This update should bring greater stability to the Mac client, there are some outstanding issues we are still investigating. I would like to encourage you to file a bug report after the Kronos release if you still experience the freezing.

**CCP Vertex  |  Senior Development Manager ** | @CCP_Vertex
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#18 - 2014-05-29 17:11:00 UTC
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Low slots instead of rigs for Freighters and Jump Freighters


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Ali Aras
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#19 - 2014-05-29 17:14:01 UTC
CCP Vertex wrote:

This update should bring greater stability to the Mac client, there are some outstanding issues we are still investigating. I would like to encourage you to file a bug report after the Kronos release if you still experience the freezing.

Will do, thanks-- this is basically the best news I've heard all year.

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Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#20 - 2014-05-29 19:04:16 UTC
I thought we were going to get some low slot drone modules?
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