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Dev blog: Audio Customization Coming In Kronos!

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Dareth Meroul
OMRE
#61 - 2014-05-28 21:59:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Dareth Meroul
Don't worry about the naggers or malcontents; these changes to audio are great!

Any future features/iteration will be nice, I'm sure, but I'm rather happy with what you've already presented—as are many others, I'm sure.
Myxx
The Scope
#62 - 2014-05-28 22:33:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Myxx
CCP WhiteNoiseTrash wrote:
Myxx wrote:
CCP WhiteNoiseTrash wrote:
Odin Shadow wrote:
just to be sure.

you can still turn it all off right?


you don't even have to turn it on ;)

Cool. I can continue to completely ignore it. That's pretty much all I cared about.


Such positive vibes ;)

Do you know *why* I ignore them? It is because the majority of the time, they annoy me. The sounds are not something I care to listen to. I do not enjoy them. Some, while helpful, are about on par with nails on a chalkboard to my ears. Nothing against you as a sound engineer.

For example, the armor or shield warnings are some of the most unpleasant sounds I have heard in most any MMOs. I get it that they are warnings and are meant to get my attention. That doesn't really make up for the fact that they are not something I care to hear.

Another example would be the armor repair sounds. You know that feeling you get when you remove foam from packaging and it screeches and you get those awful shudders? Yeah, thats what that particular noise does to me.

Just about the only sounds I enjoyed in the entire game were from the jukebox... which you removed for some godawful reason.

Sooo... I moved those tracks to my music folder and just play them in Itunes instead. Effectively, you removed the only reason I had ever turned sound on to begin with.

I guess what I'm saying is, bring the jukebox back and I'll probably turn my sound back on.

Edit: I'm actually probably lying about turning my sound back on just for the jukebox now that I think about it. Nevermind.
Maxxor Brutor
Borderline Procurements
#63 - 2014-05-28 22:49:59 UTC
Just wanted to say that CCP WhiteNoiseTrash is one of my favourite devs for this :D
Jin d'SaanGo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2014-05-28 23:14:36 UTC
CCP WhiteNoiseTrash wrote:
...
I am almost alone on doing all this, we have the smallest audio team on the planet of any game of this size - and it's really frustrating to not be able to change everything instantly.
This is the result of a whole year of working and prototyping for me, it's part of a bigger plan.

so use it to the best of it's capabilities and wait for more to come, and know that I am working hard on making eve a better sounding game and a better sounding experience for all, but like I said, I am basically alone on doing this and three man army, with a one man army just for assets and creation of tools like this, doesn't do much in one day.


Just wanted to let you know that your work is very much appericated. I'm one of the guys to whom audio is more important than graphics (and it makes me really sad that "countless" man hours are put into graphics [which I don't see on my screen, just boxes] while audio seems to considered with such low priority). To me, what makes an entertainment product (games, movies and such) really immersive is the sound. I claim that any place on earth presenting outer space to the public would put a lot of effort into sound because pretty pictures will get you just that far while sound and music can make you dreaming for a very long time. So, you got my full support for fighting the right course. :-) Plus, unlike other I have absolutely no objections with any of the current sounds, I find them quite fitting and nice.

There is one little things which I was hoping for for a long time: a slider that adjusts the frequency of songs / EVE music played. In other words, I would like to listen to EVE music, but only every now and again, not looping for hours and days and years. In the future you could connect the moment when the next song is played to trigger events (or change music according to the event, as already mentioned by other players). That little amendment to your work would make me keep me happy for many months to come, and I think or hope that it can be programmed quite easily.
Logix42
Taxation Damnation
#65 - 2014-05-28 23:16:11 UTC
Is it possible to get a Reset button to reset to default just these audio settings? I can foresee that being useful

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Ospie
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2014-05-29 00:09:26 UTC
Jin d'SaanGo wrote:
CCP WhiteNoiseTrash wrote:
...
I am almost alone on doing all this, we have the smallest audio team on the planet of any game of this size - and it's really frustrating to not be able to change everything instantly.
This is the result of a whole year of working and prototyping for me, it's part of a bigger plan.

so use it to the best of it's capabilities and wait for more to come, and know that I am working hard on making eve a better sounding game and a better sounding experience for all, but like I said, I am basically alone on doing this and three man army, with a one man army just for assets and creation of tools like this, doesn't do much in one day.


Just wanted to let you know that your work is very much appericated. I'm one of the guys to whom audio is more important than graphics (and it makes me really sad that "countless" man hours are put into graphics [which I don't see on my screen, just boxes] while audio seems to considered with such low priority). To me, what makes an entertainment product (games, movies and such) really immersive is the sound. I claim that any place on earth presenting outer space to the public would put a lot of effort into sound because pretty pictures will get you just that far while sound and music can make you dreaming for a very long time. So, you got my full support for fighting the right course. :-) Plus, unlike other I have absolutely no objections with any of the current sounds, I find them quite fitting and nice.



Seconded. I for one will be turning sound back on thanks to the work you've done!
Gaijin Lanis
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2014-05-29 00:18:20 UTC
I am looking forward to being able to, once again, hear the awesome bass heavy engine sounds for ships sized industrial and larger, but not looking forward to hearing having to turn that down/off whenever I'm near a frigate/cruiser.

To say, the only thing that was really wrong with the sound scape introduced earlier was the way shuttles had the same sonic footprint as titans, and how the default camera angle was right up a ship's anus.

For if you're absolutely dead set on having frigates/shuttles sound like a swarm of angry hornets riding bottlerockets in a tin submarine, despite that fact even a shuttle engine is larger than the rockets used in the Apollo program, and you don't want to adjust the sound footprints based upon source size, please give the option to split up ship engine volume based upon size. Small, medium, large, xlarge, etc. Please Please Please.

The above was written and posted with nothing but love in my heart for all.
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#68 - 2014-05-29 02:11:37 UTC
Dev Blog wrote:
We brainstormed on how we could approach some of the audio challenges in EVE and how we can encourage more people to turn sound back on or avoid having them turn it off in the first place. We also explored how to use sound as a tool equal to graphics and text and still stay within the strict aesthetics of EVE’s serious business.

This menu allows players to shape their audio experience in the game in a new way, adjusting which sounds you want less of.
In the future, we will continue to iterate on this system and one of the things in mind is a complete new mix of the sounds in EVE, allowing you to also turn up sounds – for now you will have to survive on the option to lower them only.


and this is exactly why everyone plays eve with the sound off.

The vast majority of the eve noises are not configurable in any useful way , are annoying and i want them to be turned off selectively. This is a step in the right direction, but its not a whole answer.

Just like with tool tips, jump animations, WIS and site clouds, people want to be able to turn things off. not down, not low, off.

While you may have put a lot of work into this, and it may or may not be your decision to make, this is not going to get more people to turn sound on again for more then the ten minutes it takes to get annoyed at it again.
Allow sounds to get turned off selectively and you wont have to look at it again, keep it the way you have it and no one will hear your work at all except for as long as it takes to uncheck the audio enabled button in the esc menu.

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
Syri Taneka
NOVA-CAINE
#69 - 2014-05-29 02:52:10 UTC
Awesome.

I think I'll turn sound back on. For one thing. Jumpgate noise.
BayneNothos
United Electro-Magnetic Federation
Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
#70 - 2014-05-29 03:38:53 UTC
Awesome stuff, can't wait to test it out.

While you're poking around, the standard wormhole idle sound cuts off after a few repeats. It's kinda freaking me out not having it pulsating in the background. Can we get that fixed please?
Aeron Kinkade
Kade Holdings
#71 - 2014-05-29 04:54:35 UTC
This is all awesome! However there is one thing I have noticed that is long long long overdue, overlooked and has been requested for sometime now.. THE JUKEBOX!!!! Since day one that the JUKEBOX feature was removed there have been endless requests made to put it back into the client.

Come on CCP; admit to it.... the "Oh so awesome Mix" that is automatically played .... example the difference between high sec, low and null, is quite frankly...... crap!!! Most of us that live in NULL have the music turned off. Why? Because it is anything but exciting and enjoyable. It is dark and depressing.

I and many other players had made great use of the JUKEBOX and enjoyed being able to select what track to play that came with the game or the ability to build our own playlists as we preferred. There have been days I wished to hear a fast in your face type of music while roaming through null in the heat of the hunt, and there are times I just wanted calm relaxing..... Either way you look at the source of the desire for what music is wanted at what time is a mute point.

The point is CCP, it has been asked for over and over again since it's removal and yet you have ignored the requests and outcry for it. Fantastic job on adding options that will make the sound effects experience more enjoyable, BUT BOO on the lack of detail in failing yet again to listen all the way..... What really makes it sad is it is all but a few lines of code that would need to be restored and one of the most desired and missed features of the game would be restored.

So get off it CCP, you are programmers; NOT DJ'S and for the love of all creation!!!! GIVE US THE JUKE BOX BACK!!!! We have faith you can do it. So, DO IT!
Dirty Wrench
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2014-05-29 05:47:21 UTC
I didn't realise asteroids belts got wind.

Maybe you should stop feeding them beans ?
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#73 - 2014-05-29 05:58:14 UTC
Engine sound!!! Best info today!!!

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2014-05-29 07:25:06 UTC
Quote:

It’s not just about awesome new assets


There will be new assets?
No more 8bit 11khz muffled hollow explosions that sound completely ludicrous with a cd quality ambient music in the background ?
(if one is lucky and the low quality "cool dramatic combat" music is not played)
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#75 - 2014-05-29 08:48:15 UTC
Confirming ccp WhiteNoise Trash did indeed spend an inordinate amount of time on the forums dealing with the community.
+1 to this man, very open and concise.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#76 - 2014-05-29 10:31:08 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Confirming ccp WhiteNoise Trash did indeed spend an inordinate amount of time on the forums dealing with the community.
+1 to this man, very open and concise.
So much this. Plus he listened and gave us options.

CCP WhiteNoiseTrash Dev, the best Dev. Cool

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Korvin
Shadow Kingdom
Best Alliance
#77 - 2014-05-29 13:47:07 UTC
Let me photoshop this for you:

http://degree1978.narod.ru/111/audio-settings.jpg

Call CCP Karkur Big smile

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Castelo Selva
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#78 - 2014-05-29 14:35:20 UTC
First of all, a big thank you for your hard work. I am very glad that this sound revolution is beginning, and I expect that these changes will upgrade the eve experience for everyone.

Said that, I would like an import / export feature, if possible, because I play eve on several different machine, and that will help to ensure the same configuration, and of course, reduce the time to put the same equal on all of the PCs.

Thank you again.
Castelo

Best post ever!
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
#79 - 2014-05-29 16:30:58 UTC
How about a fart slider for when I am in my quarters?

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In all seriousness...good changes...I will now be able to turn down some of the sounds I find annoying.
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2014-05-29 17:06:01 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
With the Kronos release (published on June 3rd) the Audio team presents exciting new features and improvements: detailed audio customization! Advanced audio settings will give you much more control over specific sounds, if they are played and their respective volume.

Read all about these fantastic audio improvements in CCP WhiteNoiseTrash's latest dev blog Audio Customization Coming In Kronos!


I still want to know why 5 people's hardcore qq'ing on the forums got my "turbocharger spool" sound removed from MWD activation.
Most players either liked it or didn't care. Bring it back.

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